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Obama’s student address optional
Published Friday, September 4, 2009
Chilton County Superintendent of Education Keith Moore is letting school principals decide whether or not to air President Barack Obama’s back-to-school address to students Sept. 8.
Moore is requiring, however, that each participating school provide a central location in the school building rather than show the broadcast in individual classrooms.
“Some of our schools are going to show it, but we’re providing a central location,” he said.
Moore said the system received a letter from State Superintendent Joe Morton explaining that showing the speech is not mandatory and that schools are not expected to miss lunch or important exams.
Obama’s address is scheduled to air Tuesday at 11 a.m. on cable news network C-SPAN and on the White House Web site.
It will be broadcast live from Wakefield High School in Arlington, Va.
“If they don’t want to watch it, they don’t have to,” Moore said. “We have to continue on with our basic instruction that day.”
The Chilton County Board of Education’s central office has received a large volume of calls on the subject.
The same controversy is evident nationwide, and districts in several states including Illinois, Minnesota, Missouri, Texas, Virginia and Wisconsin have opted not to show the speech to students.
Other districts, like Chilton’s, are allowing schools or individuals to decide for themselves. Still, others are mulling it over.
Some conservatives have tried to get parents and schools to boycott the address.
While some believe the President is overstepping his boundaries, others see the speech as a memorable opportunity for students to hear their president address the younger generation.
This won’t be the first time a U.S. President has addressed students.
In 1989, President George H.W. Bush gave a publicly televised anti-drug speech.
Three years earlier, President Ronald Reagan’s commencement speech and Q&A session were viewed by school districts nationwide.
When asked, Moore said he had no comment on whether he would advise students to watch the broadcast.
“I don’t know what’s going to be said,” he said.
Parents can preview the speech online Monday on the White House Web site.
For more information, contact your child’s school.
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Posted by espivey (anonymous) on September 5, 2009 at 6:30 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Socialism at work. He is trying to start with the young ones.
Posted by kdnichols (Ken Nichols) on September 5, 2009 at 8:29 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Remember Hitler?
Posted by rjjr (anonymous) on September 5, 2009 at 8:49 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Kdnichols,
Remember Regan??...Remember George H Bush??
They did the same thing Obama wants to do. So what's the difference?
Posted by concernedcitizen (anonymous) on September 5, 2009 at 9 a.m. (Suggest removal)
rjjr---we all remember regan and we all remember bush....it's OBAMA we want to forget.!
Posted by rmims404 (Roger Mims) on September 5, 2009 at 9:06 a.m. (Suggest removal)
I'd guess that Barack Hussein Obama II in some way will be pushing his liberal, socialist agenda. I'm afraid this country is headed downhill like a snowball. Maybe the voters will make a change the next time we vote for president.
Posted by rjjr (anonymous) on September 5, 2009 at 9:14 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Why? Because he beat out McCain and and his Fruitloop VP choice?
BTW. W did a fine job with our school children...didn't he?
Who could forget this guy?
http://www.truthdig.com/images/eartotheg...
Posted by IamJimIam (anonymous) on September 5, 2009 at 9:51 a.m. (Suggest removal)
What is scary is the number of paranoid wingnuts who think one speech will indoctorinate their kids. He wants to talk about success in school, something he OBVIOUSLY knows about since he is well educated in the top schools in the country. I bet if W wanted to get on TV and spew his religious fundamentalist views and how war is great, the Right Wing would be all over that. Hey, guess what? Other people, the majority of voters, actually LIKE what Obama has to offer and elected him.
Posted by AllSeeingEye (anonymous) on September 5, 2009 at 10:37 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Has the GOP lost its collective mind?! How does a televised address in classrooms from President Obama that will "challenge students to work hard, set educational goals, and take responsibility for their learning" turn into a sinister attempt to "indoctrinate America’s children to his socialist agenda?" Seriously, enough with the lies! Enough with the scare tactics!
Hey wingnuts, stop watching Faux News and GET THE FACTS!
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/...
Posted by scoobydoo (anonymous) on September 5, 2009 at 11:07 a.m. (Suggest removal)
I think if parents want their children to watch the speech then TIVO it and watch it during your family time at home..Although I had rather watch Barney with my family...The superintendent should have made a decision to not allow it instead of giving an option to watch it...Our children do not need to be corrupted..Our nation already is...If people don't turn back to God and His principles this nation is not going to get any better...
Posted by bama6983 (anonymous) on September 5, 2009 at 1:05 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Is the option just for the high school kids? Did I miss that in the article?
Posted by chilton77 (anonymous) on September 5, 2009 at 3:47 p.m. (Suggest removal)
If the school opts to show it but we do not want our children to watch it, can we have that option to send a note to school with that request? I don't want my kids listening anything that this man has to say. This country has changed so fast in so little time... it's truly scary what he is trying to do to us.
Posted by RktScience (anonymous) on September 5, 2009 at 6:17 p.m. (Suggest removal)
I find it interesting that the biggest argument for Obama and his policies is that Bush was a horrible president. Agreed. Bush was a horrible president. Now, can we also agree that Obama is a collectivist who seeks to fundamentally change America by growing government and shrinking individual liberty?
Posted by rjjr (anonymous) on September 5, 2009 at 7:20 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Rktscience, the Patriot Act that W signed into law has been violating our individual civil liberties in an unpresidented way since 2001.
Look at Obama's postion on the Patriot Act.
http://www.barackobama.com/factcheck/200...
I don't see where he's trying to shrink our liberties. Can you tell us?
Posted by 2byz (anonymous) on September 5, 2009 at 9:23 p.m. (Suggest removal)
I DO NOT want my children listening to anything he has to say! There is a HUGE difference in him and Presidents such as Regan and Bush! President Bush did not RUIN this Country in just 4 years! We all know it took MUCH longer than that! Steve I am impressed that YOU can point your finger and again name call with such dignity! Let's talk about the siblings of Obama, well WHICH one, the homeless one that no one is sure of his where abouts? Doing more than just a line or so! God only knows about the rest! Just what does a sibling have to do with what type person you or I will be? Nothing! Obama wants to tell our children more than to just do good in school, but sounds much more like Hitler and what he wanted to tell our children! I too listen to Glen Beck, I am able to make my own decisions about how undermining he is! He doesn't really EVER answer a question, he more or less skirts around. He's apparently charming to some or at least he was! We'll just have to wait and see just how bad it really gets, won't we? We always have the tendency to want something else, at least until we get it. Then we are left WISHING we were back where we started because it really wasn't near as bad as what we get! So all of you that voted him in, hold on, for this ride is for YOU!
Posted by RktScience (anonymous) on September 5, 2009 at 11:36 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Again with the Bush thing, eh Graves? I've already told you, I agree with your assessment of the man. Believe it or not, I also agree with you on the Patriot Act. Bad business, that. However, Bush's crimes don't excuse Obama's. Simply because Bush policies trampled on our rights hardly means we should look the other way when Obama's do the same.
Obama seems to have a particular loathing for our right to private property-that basic right which underpins our capitalist economic system. He's more obsessed with taking stuff from one group and awarding it to another than any president since Johnson. He seems to honestly believe that the accumulation of wealth is wrong and that it's the role of the government to right this wrong through regulation and taxation.
The two centerpieces of his young administration, healthcare and cap and trade are only poorly veiled attempts at seizing wealth from one group in order to transfer it to another. He sees this as a sort of social justice. Many consider it outright theft, an abuse of government's power to regulate and to tax, and an attack on basic rights of people to the fruits of their labor.
Posted by rjjr (anonymous) on September 5, 2009 at 11:55 p.m. (Suggest removal)
I believe that if a person needs to resort to making a comparison between Adolph Hitler and any other person on the planet, then that person has lost the possibility of a rational argument with reasonable people.
The comparison between Hitler and Obama falls withinin the realm of reality somewhere between absurd and ignorant
Posted by RktScience (anonymous) on September 6, 2009 at 12:11 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Graves, the difference here is that your dad exposed you to this stuff and made you watch the news, watergate, and whatever. In the case of Obama's speech folks are worried that the GOVERNMENT might make their kids watch the speech. Big difference for those of us who have a do-it-yourself, independent philosophy on life.
Posted by kittycreek (anonymous) on September 6, 2009 at 12:22 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Thank you, Graves, rjjr, AllSeeingEye, and lamJImlam, you have restored my faith in people's ability to think!
As for espivey, kdnichols, scoobydoo, 2byz and some others...You people scare me!
This is still a great nation. Obama is OUR president. How about a little support and faith. The problems we have didn't suddenly happen the minute he came into office.
I am sooo sick of all the ridiculous lies about Obama being a communist or a socialist or a Muslim or Not even a U.S. citizen or he's trying to "turn our children in to zombies"!
The list goes on and on.
How about this: could it be that the Republican Party has become so pathetically desperate that all they can do is spread fear and lies to anyone clueless enough to believe them?
Plus, the big players in the health Insurance Industry that continue to get richer, sure don’t want health care reform….they like it when people believe those lies too - ya know like, "death panels" and "health care will be rationed" (it already is.) and "The government will be making health care decisions instead of doctors and patients". Scary Stuff, huh?
At first I heard that Obama was going to make a speech about the importance of education - to encourage kids to do well in school. Now, thanks to a bunch of lies, people think he's trying to push socialist ideas on them. The lies have gotten WAY out of hand and it is very frightening and sad.
Please be sure and question what you hear. Do some research...there are so many lies out there, but, you CAN find the truth.
Posted by RktScience (anonymous) on September 6, 2009 at 12:41 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Kittycreek, you might want to do a little reasearch yourself, particularly as it concerns healthcare. Contrary to your assertions, most of the "big players" in the health insurance industry are on-board with Obama-care along with big pharmacuetical companies and many large corporations.
http://www.reason.com/news/show/135407.h...
Also, the last two of the three "lies" you've mentioned are not lies at all. Rationing and government control of services will be essential to any government healthcare scheme. It's simple economics. You can't increase demand on a product or commodity while holding supply constant and expect everyone to get what they need. There must be rationing and someone must make decisions as to how the product is rationed. In this case, that someone will be burueacrats in the federal government.
You are correct in your parenthetical statement that rationing already exists. Insurance companies, of course, engage in rationing all the time. The big difference is that if you don't like the way your insurance company rations your healthcare, you can always fire your insurance company. You won't be able to fire the federal government. You see, the government, unlike the insurers, have the unique ability to make you pay, at gunpoint if necessary, whether you want what they're selling or not. At least with the insurance companies you have the freedom to choose to take their product, with government healthcare, you give up that freedom.
Posted by kittycreek (anonymous) on September 6, 2009 at 12:56 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Yes, RktScience, I know that there are some big players that are supporting health care reform, and I am pleased about that. That shows that a lot of people still care about the well being of those less fortunate.
Wow! You must be pretty wealthy if you can just "fire" your health insurance company and run out and pick a different one! Us every day working class folks can't do that.
Where do you get the idea about "making you pay at gunpoint"? I guess I need to tune in Fox or Rush and get the latest scare stories.
Posted by RktScience (anonymous) on September 6, 2009 at 12:58 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Mr. Graves, you have obviously not been paying attention. Cap and Trade alone could easily double the amount you and I pay for energy over the next few years. It will also drive up the cost of everything which requires energy to produce, transport, or market-basically everything. Tobacco taxes, which tend to hit poorer folks particularly hard, were recently hiked and folks are kicking around the idea of a sugary soft-drink tax, as well.
I did enjoy the bit of irony in your post, though. You sarcastically make fun of republicans lack of concern for others, but you don't have a problem with tax increases and what-not as long as it doesn't directly affect you. I also find it interesting that you're perfectly willing to help folks get healthcare and pay for college with money seized from other folks. Interesting.
I learned a new term the other day-the zero-liability voter. It describes folks who stand to bear no direct burden from new programs to grant government largesse. They're more likely to support increased transfers of wealth because none of their wealth is being tranferred.
Posted by RktScience (anonymous) on September 6, 2009 at 1:08 a.m. (Suggest removal)
kittycreek, refuse to pay your taxes and see just how quickly you end up on the business end of a gun. The IRS doesn't tend to ask nicely-not more than once anyway.
If you'll read my post, I didn't say you could just run out and pick up a different policy, even though you can, but you'd probably lose your employer's contribution. Unless, of course, you could talk your employer into paying that directly to you. I actually had an employer who did that once.
That brings up a particular problem with insurance that could be solved with almost no growth of government or increase in taxes. In many cases insurance companies are prevented from selling policies across state lines. This results in very limited competition among insurers which limits their incentive to drive down costs and pass those cost savings on to the consumer. If we were to remove that barrier to competition, we'd see a very rapid and significant decrease in the cost of health insurance.
Posted by RktScience (anonymous) on September 6, 2009 at 1:14 a.m. (Suggest removal)
I don't know who you're hanging out with Graves, but they seem to be pretty brutal folks. To answer your question, no, I don't think we should do away with those programs. I think they should all be reformed to make them sustainable. However, I don't think we should tear down the entire healthcare industry and rebuild it in the image of medicare either.
Our healthcare system works. It could work much better, but it could also work much worse. We could improve it tremendously if we'd simply remove some of the silly regulations we have in place and open up the market a bit.
Posted by clearview (anonymous) on September 6, 2009 at 9:49 a.m. (Suggest removal)
What a tempest in a teapot! And, by this point, most seem to have lost sight of the original question concerning whether students should hear an address by the President. From what I can tell, there seems to be a great fear that our students will listen to and be influenced by what an adult says in a fairly brief presentation. You may be a bit out of touch with real kids if you think they give instant credit to what adults tell them. What are the odds that students whose parents have ranted about this dangerous politician for many months will be indoctrinated by one address? What is the harm if others who have not been exposed to such hear an adult tell them about why he thinks they need a good education? If you listen to the address yourself, could you not use it as a starting point to discuss with your child what was said, whether or not ideas are valid? Or, is this just too much trouble? Ranting is cheap and easy; discussion takes more than some are willing to give. You should take as much interest in what your kids hearing on their iPods.
Posted by Edward6 (anonymous) on September 6, 2009 at 10:06 a.m. (Suggest removal)
You can go to ed.gov and find his classroom activities list. The list is troubling to me because it focuses on Obama and the questions are asked in that manner. I remember Bush talked in the classrooms and had a message for the children to stay away from drugs but Obama's speech is more general in how can the children help the president lending credence to Obama as the "Great Leader". Helping the president get re-elected, passing Obamacare are only a couple possible ways the children could say we need to do to help the president. Someone made a deliberate decision to focus this on Obama and not just education.
Posted by 2byz (anonymous) on September 6, 2009 at 11:10 a.m. (Suggest removal)
This is a joke and Steve you're the biggest of all. Most of the things you have said in these last few comments are probally the MOST ignoarant you've EVER said. I hope that for you families sake, they do not have to be the ones suffering for your ideas! I know how many years Bush (both) were President. You were the one that brought sibblings into it. I wonder, why haven't you received SOME type of special honors, being the smartest person alive & the most historical, oh I don't know enough to describe ALL that you've become. Oh yeah, I remember now. Kity, being scared of a person not wanting someone like Obama DICTATING to this Country, well that pretty much says enough for you as well. It's not just one address, but the begginning of much more worse things to come. My children are educated and will continue to gain education each day they are breathing. I do encourage learning, growing and USING each thing God gave them! He is the ONLY one we will serve, not Obama and that IS what he is trying to have these children learn. Let his Health Care Reform Bill pass and you'd best hope & pray you're not the one who needs any type of major surgery or other major care because you wont get it! Not only that but at the end of life care you WILL need, you won't be getting that either! You'll be no more than an old dog, worse than that you won't get that kind of care. So you just sit back and watch! Then come back & I'll appologize if I'm wrong, but that won't happen, not in this case. Edward6, you are so correct. Steve, I'm threw playing games with you, your scarcasim, iggnorance and many more colorful words are just too small! No matter what it is about, you ARE NOT open to anything except yourself. You ride the fence and get off on which ever side suits you at that moment. You should TRY to be honest with yourself once, you might see you might just be able to use SOMETHING in your skull.
Posted by getbizi (anonymous) on September 6, 2009 at 2:35 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Obama calls himself a Christian but does everything he can to distance himself from it. He has plenty of time to pay tribute to the Muslim's Ramadaan. He made sure the Black Panthers hanging out in front of polling places with billy clubs were released scott free. He has single-handedly employed over 30 czars who report directly to him and no one else. He hired on Van Jones, a bigot, without any pre-employment screening.
Thankyou FOX NEWS for reporting the stories that the other news outlets will NOT report.
Posted by melittleton1 (anonymous) on September 6, 2009 at 5:31 p.m. (Suggest removal)
If I'm not mistaken, the topic here was supposed to be about Obama speaking to the school children. I have two basic comments: First of all, whether any of you agree with it or not, this is still a free country and parents have the absolute right to decide who and what their children will be exposed to. And frankly, as a parent, I do not care if you agree with my decision or not. That's called parenting, and it's MY job, and one I will perform without asking for input from the general public. Second of all, it is not just an "innocent" speech to school kids about working hard and staying in school. Please do some research and find out the facts...lesson plans and suggested "activities" have been provided to school systems to accompany the speech. Those lesson plans include such questions as "How can you support President Obama?" Well, frankly, I don't think those are appropriate types of questions. What about children whose parents/families do NOT support Obama? (gasp...I know you're horrified to hear that, but it's a fact!) As I said earlier, it's still a free country (at least for now) and I have the absolute right to NOT support an elected official if I disagree with his politics...which I do, unapologetically. And don't pull the race card with me...I would object to ANYONE who told me that I had an obligation to give my hard-earned money to pay for health care (or anything else) for those who don't get up and go to work every day. What happened to America's work ethic? People need to stop worrying about being politically correct and not "offending" anyone, and say it like it is! If you want to be successful, get up every day, work hard, and manage your money appropriately instead of reaching into my pocket to take what I have earned!!
Posted by kittycreek (anonymous) on September 6, 2009 at 7:16 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Whew!
People get mean and insulting when you dare to have a different point of view.
Rant on, people, you have my deepest sympathy!
Posted by mrjones0913 (anonymous) on September 6, 2009 at 9:20 p.m. (Suggest removal)
As to my children watching this speech I will be sending a note to their teachers that they are not allowed to watch this speech. Before any of you go crazy on me, KW, that is my right as a parent. This is something that I feel that should be the paernts choice. I for myself do not believe in the socialistic polices that this administration is setting into motion.I am not as some put a whack job that listens to Glen Beck. I do listen to him but I research what is said. I have al 1200+ pages of cap and trade saved on my computer. For those of you that say the coparsions to Hitler are unfounded well those who forgett history are doomed to repeat it. By the way Bush started a lot socialitc programs as well. Can not wait to vote Obama and the DEMs out in 2012.
Posted by travlr423 (anonymous) on September 7, 2009 at 12:37 a.m. (Suggest removal)
mrjones0913, I dont mean to offend you but your rule over your child's right to make an informed decision of their own seems to be under the socialistic dictation of you as a parent. It appears to me that you are selling or depositing to your own child that the idea of living in a thought controlled society is how we should live. It would seem more valuable to me as a parent to let my child make their own decision to participate or not to. And then take my place as a parent in trying to make an educated effort in helping them to understand and answer any questions relating to the speech. You dont educate an individual or even a child by hiding them under a rock. however you can help them prepare for the future by helping them to understand and make better decisions according to their knowledge.
Posted by rjjr (anonymous) on September 7, 2009 at 2:32 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Glenn Beck is an idiot....how anyone can listen to him spew his ranting dribble is beyond belief. Too bad some here would rather their children listen to the lunatic opinions of a recovering drug addict than listen to our President.
Posted by dottie2008 (anonymous) on September 7, 2009 at 4:19 a.m. (Suggest removal)
If it was someone other than Obama people would not have an issue with it. People are such idiots now days. If everyone remembers when 9/ 11 took place Bush was at a school in Fla reading to children. He didn't even know what had taken place until the secret service went in and got him. Do you people really think that he was " just" reading? I am quite sure that he was making speeches also.
Obama come into office in the footsteps of a man that put this country in the shape that we are in. 8 years of Bush and his crap is not going to be fixed in a few months.
It took 8 years for Bush to do what he done and it will probably take 8 more to get us out. Longer because of all the people against Obama and doing all they are doing.
Posted by Harley2009 (anonymous) on September 7, 2009 at 7:23 a.m. (Suggest removal)
If they let these kids watch this nut. I think im going to circle the parking lot with my rebel flags attached to my motorcycle.
Posted by roxy123 (anonymous) on September 7, 2009 at 8:03 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Whether you like him or not,he is your President too.If you live and the USA,again say HE IS YOUR PRESIDENT TOO.You people putting these comments on this shows that it is still and always will be prejudice in this country.It is 2009 people,sometimes there calls for a change in the way you think.But I guess NOT ! I agree with you dottie2008.
Posted by mrjones0913 (anonymous) on September 7, 2009 at 8:45 a.m. (Suggest removal)
I see that I heve ruffeled a few feathers here. First tr423 my children are all 10 and under and my Christain responsibiltiy is to raise them correctlly. That responsiblity comes befor country. I can not in good faith let my chidren, who are not old enough to understand what Obama stands for, listen to his foolisness. For all of you who have drank the KOOL-AID he is Racsits and whit those beliefs he will take our contry down a path of destruction. If you do not believe this then you closed your ears to the words of the Pastor that he sit in church and listen to for over ten years. Do not forgett that the naame we know him by is not his birth name but the name he took when he converted to Islam. Acountry that was built on God can not stand when a it is ran without God which it is being and has been for the last 13 years. Remember we are the only country that stands with Isreal now but in the last day Isreal will be alone. What does that say for us as a country?
Posted by Harley2009 (anonymous) on September 7, 2009 at 8:46 a.m. (Suggest removal)
I didnt vote the dummy in. I dont listen to what he says. He may be your president but not mine.
Posted by getbizi (anonymous) on September 7, 2009 at 9:22 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Roxy said....."You people putting these comments on this shows that it is still and always will be prejudice in this country.".....
So let me get this straight. If you disagree with the direction that Obama is taking the country, you are prejudice? Only a bigot would make that statement. I guess you forgot about Obama saying he did not know all the all the facts in the Gates vs. Police incident in Massachusetts but happened to come down on the side of "the black guy". He placed himself under the tuteledge of Rev. Wright for 2 decades, his admin. released the 2 Black Panthers standing in front of of polling places in Pa. with billy clubs without charge. And I ask you......who is prejudice???
Posted by roxy123 (anonymous) on September 7, 2009 at 9:44 a.m. (Suggest removal)
You may not have voted him in but as I said if you live in the USA, he is your president to LIKE IT OR NOT. This getbizi has happened to black people for decades.White people has killed blacks for years and were never charged.Rememeber to KKK or do you forget about that.
Posted by getbizi (anonymous) on September 7, 2009 at 10:29 a.m. (Suggest removal)
I'm 38 years old and have never killed anyone, nor am I a member of any hate organization. The above information that I have provided was commited by OBAMA in the last 8 months. I guess you have nothing to say about Obama's offenses?
Posted by mrjones0913 (anonymous) on September 7, 2009 at 11:09 a.m. (Suggest removal)
roxy123 I have a question would you be defending Obama this much if he were white? If not then who here is the racist. I on the other hand do not care if he was white , pink or from another planet I would still not allow my chidren to here his speech. Socailism has failed around the world and if we let his and the Democratics pass their socailism programs we will fail as well. I do not look at his skin color espically since he is 50% white I look at his policies this is what I disagree with. I do not think that the goverment is their to give everyone everything they need it is up to uys to make our on life.
Posted by travlr423 (anonymous) on September 7, 2009 at 11:48 a.m. (Suggest removal)
mrjones0913,
What exactly is a Christians responsibility to their children. Is it to teach our children in the ways of the lord or is it to teach our children to hate and despise with prejudice all who do not share our personal opinions. The bible teaches us to love our enemies. We can love our enemies and still recognise them with caution. But it sounds as though you are suggesting as a christian that we should hate and despise our enemies. I guess a better question is what is a Christians responsibility to the world at large in representing christ who died for all.
And what exactly does Obama stand for. Is he the Antichrist is he a devil, Does he promote violence and ungodliness or is it his lack of experience and ability to lead our country. or is it just the fact that he is Black or anything to do with his personal faith. You have made some pretty strong suggestions in your comment that could be easily misconstrued by the reader without elaborating on any issues of fact. While i am 100% for teaching my children about christian values I am also 100% in favor of teaching them that it is a free will choice that only they can make. and that even Gods law gives us certain commandments that as Christians we really have to humble ourselves before him to honor without bitterness.
It is your right as a parent to teach your children any way you opt to, I only hope you have left them more enlightened on facts than you have some of us.
Posted by travlr423 (anonymous) on September 7, 2009 at 12:08 p.m. (Suggest removal)
while mrjones makes a very good point in failed socialism I also think that's why it is important as a parent that your child should not be hidden from these realities but it would appear to me to be more beneficial to children to be educated in the facts of why certain things just dont work for the best of everyone's interest. Which brings me back to my original comment. If you dont allow your children to be exposed to both sides of an issue where then will the opportunity arise for you to educate them with the facts.
Without an issue to debate where will facts or theories exist or be of any benefit to the listener.
Posted by kittycreek (anonymous) on September 7, 2009 at 2:33 p.m. (Suggest removal)
I just read the prepared text of Obama's speech...OMG, he's encouraging kids to study hard and stay in school! It's horrible! It's sacrilegious! It's EVIL!
In case anyone is interested in reading it:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090907/ap_o...
Not once did he say one word about anything to do with politics. Imagine that……
Posted by kittycreek (anonymous) on September 7, 2009 at 2:52 p.m. (Suggest removal)
I'm still trying to figure out who's reaching into melittleton1's pocket. Maybe it's those teens that got arrested.
Most of the people I know, do get up and go to work everyday unless they've lost their job because of this economic crisis.
There must be a lot of people around here making $250,000 +.
I keep reading posts from folks that think their "money they work hard for" is going to be taken away from them. I am assuming that they are concerned about paying higher taxes.
Posted by PhilBurnette (anonymous) on September 7, 2009 at 3:59 p.m. (Suggest removal)
I see nothing in the speech that has not been instilled into our kids since day one. As we have only one child left in high school and he gets these messages each day from my wife and I (part of our parental responsibilities) I will be directing that his time be spent on class work or study time rather than watching a speech that breaks no new ground.
I do not care WHO the politician is, what party he/she is part of or what their stance is...we sent our children to school to study core subjects, not listen to speeches by politicians. If a politician wants to address my children, he/she should go back to school, study and become a teacher at the college level. They had better do it soon though because within a few years all our children will be finished with their educations.
Posted by travlr423 (anonymous) on September 7, 2009 at 4:57 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Myself i would think that politics is very closely interwoven with education especially subjects pertaining to history. And what kind of person does not think history is essential in anyone's life. After all politics does play a major role in most of the major events that have made history. How can you separate education,history or politics.
Its OK for children to have P.E. Classes, Its important that children have the right to carry cell phones to school. Its OK for our children to spend valuable time learning how to play sports but its inhumane and against parents rights that their children should take any part in the education of politics and political history. After all today's politics is tomorrows history.
Its pretty plain to see that most of these comments in this post are racially motivated or just a matter of being in control even if its through and at the expense or our own children.
And/or last but not least just plain ignorants or maybe some of all three.
Posted by travlr423 (anonymous) on September 7, 2009 at 5:17 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Adversity of opinions are very slow here today. perhaps i can go pick an argument with my wife.
Posted by mrjones0913 (anonymous) on September 7, 2009 at 5:41 p.m. (Suggest removal)
travlr423 the only ignorance and racaily motivated comments that I have saw on here have came from the ones that are in support of Obama. It has been said on this site that I have socailist views bacause I will not allow my children to watch this speech. That is not socalism it is my choice as a parent. Then my views as a Christain parent have been question to answer a few questions do i think he is the antichrist no I do not. I do not beleive in his policices or those of the extream left nor do i favor the extream right (sorry Hank Erwin I will never vote for you). I find myself being attacked on this site for my views yet I have never attacked any of you personally. The question that I will pose for any of is how much of the legislation coming from this administration have any of yall read. I personally read somthing before i speak or write on it. Again I ask if he was white would any of you be deffending him in this way, because with these views he has I would still be aginst him if he were white. It is the left that is turning this racial not the right. So only respond to me with educated answers and I am willing to debate with anyone who is willing to do that KW we somtime fall on the same side somthime differnt sides but at least you stick to facts and are informed.
Posted by kittycreek (anonymous) on September 7, 2009 at 9:11 p.m. (Suggest removal)
"the only ignorance and racaily motivated comments that I have saw on here have came from the ones that are in support of Obama...
Again I ask if he was white would any of you be deffending him in this way, because with these views he has I would still be aginst him if he were white."
Genius?
I don't have the heart to say it...nevermind!
Posted by callie1969 (anonymous) on September 8, 2009 at 8:30 a.m. (Suggest removal)
What is Keith Moore's job ? If he lets the principals at each school decide everything then why do we have him..
I am not for the showing of the president speaking. Keith Moore says this is not mandatory well what if my child refuses to watch is he going to be suspended
Posted by proudbandmom (anonymous) on September 8, 2009 at 8:40 a.m. (Suggest removal)
I told my son this morning that he could view it if he wanted or he could opt out of viewing it. Either way, there would be no repercussion at home. He is 15 now and it's time for him to start learning how politics work and form his own opinions. However, I disagree with everything Obama is trying to do. I listened to his "I Pledge" video last week. While he had some good points, he also had some bad ones. As have many past presidents. But, the one thing that stuck out to me the most was the statement "I pledge to serve my president". We don't serve our President, we serve our Country and I personally serve GOD. Our President is supposed to serve us!
Posted by proudbandmom (anonymous) on September 8, 2009 at 8:58 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Before I start getting attacked for my last post, let me just say this. I just went and read what Obama is planning to say to our kids today and I really hope my son chooses to hear it. He will be saying things that my husband and I have been trying to instill in him all along.
Posted by Likeitreallymatters (anonymous) on September 8, 2009 at 10 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Keith Moore's job is not to micromanage. There is a reason we have principals. They are supposed to make important decisions for their school. Moore could not have made this mandatory if he wanted to anyway. JMS doesn't even have the capability to show a televised event.
Posted by getbizi (anonymous) on September 8, 2009 at 11:40 a.m. (Suggest removal)
The Democrats are getting what they gave the Republicans for 8 years. The Dems. opposed EVERYTHING that Bush and the Reps. did. Now they are upset because they are getting a taste of their own medicine. This all really started when the Dems. refused to accept their defeat in 2004. At least the Reps. will only have to do it for 4 years.
Posted by AllSeeingEye (anonymous) on September 8, 2009 at 1:01 p.m. (Suggest removal)
proudbandmom - You are misrepresenting the "Pledge" video. First you should understand the context of the video which begins with President Obama saying "Let us summon a new spirit of patriotism, of responsibility where each of us resolves to pitch in and work harder and look after not only ourselves but each other." (Ronald Reagan or any other president could have said the exact same words and nobody would be complaining.)
The video shows celebrities making different pledges all related to Obama's initial statement. The actual quote (that you incorrectly gave) is from Anthony Kiedis who says "I pledge to be of service to Barack Obama." In the CONTEXT of Obama's initial statement and everything said in this entire video, there is absolutely nothing wrong with that statement. Nobody is asking anyone to "serve" the president. It's just a statement by one Obama supporter in regards to us all working hard for ourselves and each other and nothing more.
Here's a link to the video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqcPA1ysS...
Just setting the record straight. Thank you for your other comment.
Posted by proudbandmom (anonymous) on September 8, 2009 at 2:10 p.m. (Suggest removal)
ok allseeing, i went and watched it again to be sure i didn't miss something. Yes, Anthony Kiedis did make the statement you referenced, but at the end, Demi Moore clearly says "to be a servant to our President". Now I'm just setting the record straight as you did.
Posted by Likeitreallymatters (anonymous) on September 8, 2009 at 2:51 p.m. (Suggest removal)
getbizi - On the day that Obama lies to us like Bush did about the war, I will give him the same treatment that I did Bush. The difference here is that Obama has been the butt of hatred and loathing based not on what he has done, but what they think he is. Obama has done nothing that he didn't tell us he was going to do when he was campaigning. He hasn't pushed any hidden agenda. it has been out there for the world to see since day 1.
Also, would you accept defeat when you felt victory was stolen from you unfairly? No you wouldn't.
Posted by btalley (anonymous) on September 8, 2009 at 3:23 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Mr. Graves, I really cant believe what i'm about to type, but I have to agree with you on this one. Its funny how people can be so closed minded as to what is really going on in the world.
Posted by AllSeeingEye (anonymous) on September 8, 2009 at 4:18 p.m. (Suggest removal)
proudbandmom - I hate to have to correct you again, but you left out the "and all mankind" part of the sentence you quoted that goes after what Demi Moore said. This was one sentence spoken by two people - Demi then Ashton. That's a pretty important part to be omitted don't ya think? Why do people insist on taking quotes like this out of context when it's plainly obvious that these messages are inspirational and not sinister in any way?
I'll admit that I don't like the verbage used in this video such as "serve" or "servant" but only because right-wingers will take it out of context and try to imply some sinister meaning upon it as if Obama is out to make everyone their slave or some nonsense like that. That's how ridiculous the political discourse has gotten in this country. Nobody with half a brain or more believes this kind of foolishness, do they?
In this case common sense clearly shows the video (just like Obama's speech to school children) is meant to be inspirational but they are being characterized as exactly the opposite by those on the right who irrationally hate Obama and anything and everything he does no matter what the facts actually show to be true. I find that reprehensible.
Posted by mrjones0913 (anonymous) on September 8, 2009 at 9:29 p.m. (Suggest removal)
You guys need to all hush.... This is so stupid. Obama was fine today, but yes I am against much of what he is doing. Not because he is black, or any other racist reason. I feel that he is trying to change the WE of the United States of America and make it HIM. It is not about our dreams in America, it is about how much each president can change the dreams our forefathers had years ago.
I will not disclose whom I voted for, but when all our rights are stripped away by this man you are treating as if he were God, well don't blame me. I AM NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR IT.
Now have a good night and God Bless America (while it still stands)
Posted by travlr423 (anonymous) on September 9, 2009 at 11:16 a.m. (Suggest removal)
mrjones, I think that is the whole problem. God has already Blessed America and look how we are repaying him.
We as a nation have turned away from God and turned into a nation of self lovers searching for self satisfaction. And our ideology of serving God lends its self more to how he can serve us. So many people think because they sit in church on Sunday morning being preached into heaven that it is well with their soul. One can not blame the state of this country on any political leader or any party of democrats or republicans, That's nothing more than a loop whole created by evil that allows us to march around the truth. The bible teaches us that a house divided against its self cannot stand. It also teaches us that if a nation will turn away from their sins and exalt God then he will heal their nation. And to ask God to bless sin and rebellion is a vain prayer and request. It appears that our prayer request should be God Save America and help us to be better soldiers for the truth. I truly believe that if we as a nation focused on Gods will for us as a nation and that he might be glorified before the world at large through our efforts and not that we should glorify our self that we have done his will. Then he would provide us with God fearing leaders and citizens that made this country great in the beginning.
Posted by Lifeinthecountry (anonymous) on September 9, 2009 at 3:46 p.m. (Suggest removal)
In our home, we discuss the news with our children, as my parents did with me. We help them understand both sides of an issue, and we don't try and isolate them from differences of opinions. Sometimes we do further research to ensure that we aren't being hasty and making a rash judgmental decision because we happen to like the way a broadcaster presents the issue in the media.
I believe it is important that they learn to challenge what they hear in the media, and not blindly follow other people's interpretations, especially when it is so easy to find the facts for themselves.
My kids read the speech and then went on to find out more about Socialism and Hitler because of the correlation made in the media.
They finished the research with the conclusion "People just need to get over it, he just wants to use his influence to keep us and other kids in school".
I agree.
Posted by kittycreek (anonymous) on September 9, 2009 at 5 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Right ON, Lifeinthecountry!
Posted by mrjones0913 (anonymous) on September 9, 2009 at 5:11 p.m. (Suggest removal)
I must agree that if our nation was truly centered around serving our Lord than we would be better off. must admit one thing I am not in church every sunday because of work, but I know where my faith lies and we try our hardest to center our lives around the truth, that Jesus saves.
To all of Chilton County let it start with us, paying it forward does work. Let us to start living our lives RIGHT.
To all those who do good, but if your like me your a little gray step forward and do right, I am......
Good night and thank you to traveler423 for the insight
Posted by FarmRaised (anonymous) on September 9, 2009 at 5:54 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Travlr423, Thank You! May GOD Bless America and always keep her strong!
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