Posted by ladybug2 (anonymous) on October 31, 2009 at 7:13 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I hope the business(es) that are coming to this exchange are those the area can be proud of, and the kind that will attract other quality establishments. Exit 219 is a great location because it is not too far from the big B, and still retains a rural atmosphere.

Posted by rjjr (anonymous) on October 31, 2009 at 7:51 a.m. (Suggest removal)

They need to add a turning lane or something to that little portion of road between the Smokey Hollow and the RV park, particularly in front of the Shell.

Those big rig trucks turning into and coming out of the Jacks parking lot area cut people off all the time. I've had to slam on the brakes more than a couple of times to avoid driving up under one while they were making a quick left into that parking area.

It's only a matter of time before someone is killed there because of this problem.

Posted by Rickey (anonymous) on October 31, 2009 at 8:52 a.m. (Suggest removal)

It is a great improvement ... and yet, it is absolutely amazing that somebody wants to complain! Sit down and shut up!

Posted by ladybug2 (anonymous) on October 31, 2009 at 9:05 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Except that what rjjr mentions is something to consider. Planning for commercial (and residential) growth should also pre-incorporate road and other infrastructure needs, so that the components can occur somewhat simultaneously. The rule from what we see in building construction in Alabama is that no road expansions were, or appear to have been, thought about in advance, which has to happen because of the approval needed way in advance from the state/federal government before roads can be amended/built. They are in the process of adding a sewer system, which is great to see.

Posted by 1oldman (anonymous) on October 31, 2009 at 10:48 a.m. (Suggest removal)

With I65 and 31 in Calera being a prime example of no planning.

Posted by kwsrgraves (anonymous) on October 31, 2009 at 12:06 p.m. (Suggest removal)

rjjr, how about at 15 or 20 mph speed limit through that area? Be careful what you crow for. A speed limit sign is a helck of a lot cheaper than a road widening project that could, possibly, require years of planning, purchasing ROWs, engineering, funding, arguing, funding, arguing, etc...

"Exit 219 is a great location because it is not too far from the big B, and still retains a rural atmosphere."--Ladybug2

Well, not for long. These interstate exchange projects, historically, suck the life out of small towns across America. Next, everyone will want their own, personal Wal-Mart. Some will want O'Charley's, Applebee's, Outback, or some other fancy fastfood restaurant they consider "fancy". That's a joke in itself. Those businesses aren't locating themselves in an area unless they can have Sunday alcohol sales. The next best option is light industrial businesses that have ease of access for commercial vehicls, which leads back to rjjr's complaint. Then there is the comment about desirable businesses. Some are desired by a different group than you and your friends may be what you get. Then, you would be calling it an undesirable business. It's a vicious cycle in the false name of progress. But it will be growth, no doubt. Just look around at the folks always eating in those fast food joints. Growth is OBVIOUS in the waistline! LOL!

Posted by ladybug2 (anonymous) on October 31, 2009 at 12:34 p.m. (Suggest removal)

KWS.. You are a bit hard to follow, but I think I get your drift. I would like some examples of small towns in America that had the life sucked out of them after the advent of interstate exchange projects, as you said. The land outside the exit area is still considered residential, at this point and to my knowledge, but I may be mistaken. There seems to be a great potential for 219 to be developed very nicely, because it does not offer extremely large commercial property at this time. But what the area can accommodate as far as businesses, I don't know. I would like to know, and if any Jemison councilpeople read this, perhaps they could enlighten us as to what the area is zoned to accommodate.

Posted by gonefishen (anonymous) on October 31, 2009 at 12:58 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Have to agree with KWSR on his point. Prime example would be the 205 exit. Look at the congestion here. Trucks traveling south ,exit, and have just enough room to turn into "The Store" for fuel. It there is more than one truck trying to turn, they end up blocking the ramp and light. This is good for the new Luvs truck stop, they have easier access and a booming business. The bridge at this exit is also 3 lanes too narrow. A four lane highway with a two lane bridge. My point is the lack of growth planning in Chilton county is light years behind the outside world. Now how about those new lights?

Posted by November162000 (anonymous) on October 31, 2009 at 1:03 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Rickey: You complain AT LEAST as much as anybody else on here, and about things that usually make no sense. So, why don't YOU just "sit down and shut up"? When people have an opinion that differs from yours, you are always quick to tell them to shut up or insinuate that they are not smart enough to form an intelligent opinion. You would appear much more intelligent if you were to follow your own advice.

Posted by kwsrgraves (anonymous) on October 31, 2009 at 1:04 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Ladybug2, drive U.S. 31 from Bay Minette, AL to Mackinaw City, Michigan. You will SEE the examples. Look around Chilton County. Clanton is an example. From the old Cloverleaf Motel to where I-65 was opened when I was a very small kid, there have been 3 small, locally owned, FULL SERVICE gas stations torn down and gasoline dispensing stations moved to the interstate. Travel route 66 from West to East America. You will see towns that just faded back into broken dreams. It's not the Eisenhower Interstate System that is the problem. It's people that are the problem. Fast access is the name of the game. Welcome to the future. By the way, look at Verbena. PRIME EXAMPLE!

Posted by Preacher (anonymous) on October 31, 2009 at 4:05 p.m. (Suggest removal)

It's inevitable that the 219 exit will become home to businesses and restaurants. I have mixed feelings about it because I like living in a small community. One suggestion I have to the Jemison City Council is to limit the construction of towering billboards and signs. For example, in the Riverchase area there are no huge billboards hovering over head. Even the Arbee's Restaurant sign on Valleydale Road is less than 10 feet high. It's sufficient signage for the business, creates less eye pollution, and installation has to be less expensive to install that towering signs. This along with requiring businesses to plant trees around their property could contribute to our maintaining that "rural feeling" that most of us seem to value and will enable us to keep seeing the stars at night instead of huge commercial lights.

Posted by rjjr (anonymous) on October 31, 2009 at 5:10 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Rickey,

My name is Ron Jewell, I live at 116 Julia cir in Thorsby. If you'd like to man up and personally tell me to "sit down and shut up" Please stop by.

Thanks

Posted by gonefishen (anonymous) on October 31, 2009 at 5:46 p.m. (Suggest removal)

LMAO Good call Ron, only problem is that Rickey lives in California. Might be why he gets on here and tries to talk a good game.

Posted by kwsrgraves (anonymous) on October 31, 2009 at 6:51 p.m. (Suggest removal)

rjjr, I salute you! I wish more mouths...er...keyboards had that kind of backbone. However, Rickey is a half black, half white, half granola living in San Diego. He revels in seeing Southern Baptist churches burning. He shys from crosses burning. He claims to be catholic, and has no allegiance to ANYTHING, except for claiming to be a retired seaman, retired teacher, and retired healthcare professional. None of which I will refute. But unlike a couple of us, he won't come join us for breakfast. There are many more here who spout off, but refuse to reveal their true identity, unlike us.

I FEAR NO MAN! Only KW's fly swatter!

Steven R. Graves

Posted by dottie2008 (anonymous) on October 31, 2009 at 11:18 p.m. (Suggest removal)

All some people can do is grip and in most cases they don't have anything else to do.
If doing all this will help to bring in more business that would be great. It would give people alot more jobs and even bring more growth. Going to clanton and shopping is an nightmare
One of the places being Wal-mart, the one there in clanton has become a dump and calera as well as alabaster isn't for behind.
Wasn't but a couple of weeks ago that I had to go to the one in Alabaster and it was awful, they we're really busy but only had 3 registers open and that was only on one side. The other side there wasn't the first one open. As far as the lights going up at the Jemison exit and think that they need to put up lights at all the exits. As well they need to do something to attract business to come to the area there so the people of Chilton County could be able to shop there instead of having to go to Shelby, Jefferson, or to Prattville, or even Montgomery to shop. Growth means more jobs for everyone.

Posted by kwsrgraves (anonymous) on October 31, 2009 at 11:57 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Dottie, I RESPECTFULLY, disagree with your last statement. Growth does NOT mean jobs for everyone. Growth, like that of south Clanton, (Foley Group as a prime example) destroyed a beautiful pecan orchard, and wetlands. There were two great bass ponds that were destroyed. At night we now have bright lights a mile away. Between them, Wal-Mart, and the junk food joints and sleeze motels at the 205mm exit of I-65, our peaceful night stargazing has been destroyed. For what? A few minimum wage jobs? That may be growth in your book. But for almost 40 plus years I have lived in the same neighborhood. It was dark and quiet at night. NO CRIME. Two summers ago FG ran a night shift. Horns, shakers, and equipment so loud you could hear them over all three motors of the hottub. Now, the railroad crossing has been destroyed, the bridge approaches destroyed, asphalt destroyed, etc... If that's the growth you want, PLEASE lobby these businesses to move to Jemison. We would GLADLY like for them to leave! As for jobs, if your goal is a $10.00 per hour job...well, that speaks for itself. A part time job with no benefits isn't much better than welfare. Only difference is welfare is coming from MY pocket and I know someone's kids are, at least, being covered. If that's the growth you want, more power to you. I just don't understand that way of thinking.

Posted by ladybug2 (anonymous) on November 1, 2009 at 6:30 a.m. (Suggest removal)

To the Jemison councilpeople who approve or disallow the location of a business:
Please maintain the integrity of the 219 exit and surounding areas as businesses apply for permission to locate to that area. Please do not let it develop into the dirty, noisy, dumpy situations already available at other exits along 65. Since this area is prime and new to the whole idea of growth, and since it is either the front door or back door to Chilton County per I65 depending on which direction motorists are traveling, I ask that you proceed with care as you undertake its development. Sincerely, registered voter.
With all due respect, whether you like it or not, change is going to come. Chilton County is one of the prettiest counties in the state. Clanton proper as well as the exit areas seem to be nice areas even as they have been developed, but care needs to be taken to keep them attractive as time progresses, or the area will become so much worse than people in the area think it already is. As far as crime, police need to keep a steady watch and be seen in these areas. Places like Mt. Brook and other areas probably keep police in high profile. Please don't let Chilton County become a place of safety for criminals.

Posted by FarmRaised (anonymous) on November 1, 2009 at 7:13 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I live in the area around the 219 exit and I personally do not want to see any more gas stations, fast food joints, etc. in this area. I love the country. I have seen housing projects spring up in our area and destroy the natural beauty of our land. All in the name of progress, I guess.It seems to me that people are more interested in money and how to get more of it(in the name of progress). Kinda sad.

Posted by kdnichols (Ken Nichols) on November 1, 2009 at 10:18 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I like to spend money and welcome business to come so I can.
A Publix and Starbucks would be nice for starts.

Posted by kwsrgraves (anonymous) on November 1, 2009 at 10:40 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Now, Ladybug2, that's the right attitude. Hold your elected officials accountable for the style and manner of growth so many SEEM to want. But it's a two edged sword. Like building a landfill and prison. Everyone wants to be tough on crime, but they don't want the prison near their house to hold all of those criminals. Why is no one questioning Reed and these "supposed" interested businesses. Questioning authority is NOT dissention. Growth is NOT progress. If so, getting fat would be good for you. So goes with urbanization of rural areas.

Posted by November162000 (anonymous) on November 1, 2009 at 10:40 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Mr. Jewell, I don't think we'll have to worry about Rickey manning up. I seriously doubt that he's properly equipped for such an endeavor.

kw: I think you're wasting your time using common sense and facts concerning "growth". But I agree with you, I think we've had this discussion before. :D

Posted by rjjr (anonymous) on November 1, 2009 at 11:05 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I figured Rickey was full of keyboard courage. People like that and people who talk about other people behind their backs are nothing more than pathetic little trolls.

Thanks

Posted by ladybug2 (anonymous) on November 1, 2009 at 12:18 p.m. (Suggest removal)

P.S. Would someone write an article that all these comments about courage, lack of courage, manhood, lack of manhood, etc. could be devoted to? I suppose it is humorous to someone that comments to articles eventually end up as pseudo-fight places, but you fighter-types really need another forum.

Posted by rjjr (anonymous) on November 1, 2009 at 12:42 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Ladybug, I didn't come here to fight. I made a legitimate comment about the dangers of that portion of road in Jemison. Rickey saw fit to call it a complaint. Shortly there after, he told me to "sit down and shut up!"

Now, I don't know about you, but that doesn't fly in my book, so I called him out on it. Normally, I would ignore someone like that if it was a one time deal. I'm not trying to front as a bad ass because I'm not. But this is not the first time I've seen him do that here. People that continually try to bully others need to be addressed otherwise it won't stop and eventually it will get worse.

For the record, I never complained about Jemison. I think the Mayor and the City Council are doing a fine job with their city. They should be very proud of their accomplishments and Jemsion should be looked upon as an example for other towns to follow.

Thanks

Posted by November162000 (anonymous) on November 1, 2009 at 12:49 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I wasn't aware that it is against the rules to comment about a comment on an article. Apparently all comments are supposed to pass the ladybug2 content and applicability test. I think I will continue to comment as I see fit when I feel like it and anyone that doesn't like it is free to comment or ignore it. Sounds sort of like America to me. And BTW rjjr, I didn't take your comment as a complaint, simply stating an opinion which I thought was completely legal and these days is becoming more and more important to do.

Posted by ladybug2 (anonymous) on November 1, 2009 at 12:56 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I would like to comment about the comment about the comment, but I think I'll just hold that comment because it might not pass my "content and applicability test."
Anyway, Jemison councilpeople, please keep sane thoughts about the progress of development at exit 219. I'll clear out, and leave the freedom of speech to ya'll.

Posted by kwsrgraves (anonymous) on November 1, 2009 at 1 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Ahhh ladybug2, you are now guilty of entering the fray and being party to it! LOL!!! Ain't that weird? What's good ain't bad! What's bad ain't good! Oh! Where is Brother Dave when we NEED him most? RIP Bro. Dave!!!

Posted by rjjr (anonymous) on November 1, 2009 at 1:07 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Thanks November, KW and Gonefishen.

Ron

Posted by November162000 (anonymous) on November 1, 2009 at 1:15 p.m. (Suggest removal)

And, ladybug2, if Rickey would do as you have done and follow your/his own advice, we wouldn't hammer him so.

Posted by kwsrgraves (anonymous) on November 1, 2009 at 1:31 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Ain't this a fun way to kill time during these long green flag runs at Dega?

Posted by PeachCapitalusa (anonymous) on November 1, 2009 at 11:05 p.m. (Suggest removal)

don't get yourselves worked up people..lights or no lights about the only thing Jemison is gonna have is a Jack's and maybe another burger joint of some kind.. no business in their right mind would come to po dunkville Jemison.. if any of you believe that you are more delirious than i thought..

Posted by Rickey (anonymous) on November 2, 2009 at 2:37 a.m. (Suggest removal)

PeachCapitalusa -
You are so right. Why do I even get involved in questions regarding Po Dunkville (as you call it :) and what kind of signs and lights they elect at freeway exits?
And I find it interesting Ron Jewell that you "thank" the people that agree with you, but if someone has a different opinion, then you want to list your name, your address, etc. and then invite me to come on over and be a man! Let me ask you a question and the only thing I ask, is that you think about it BEFORE your fingers get too busy! Just because somebody holds a different opinion than yours ... is that legitimate reason to call them out to the street and prove "manhood?"

Posted by Rickey (anonymous) on November 2, 2009 at 3 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Graves -
I can not even bring myself to call you Mr. anymore. I have been highly insulted that YOU feel quiet freely in announcing that I am part black and part white .. I don't know what you meant by Cranola, and therefore I don't feel qualified to comment. But it all sounds racist to me. And we are not accustomed to using the race card. We are proud of both our heritages; and if one goes back far enough, we are a Russian family of princely descent through the female line (albeit an illigetimate line) ... we don't make a habit of bragging about that either.
Our request is for an apology for putting our personal information in a public forum.

Posted by Rickey (anonymous) on November 2, 2009 at 3:11 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Ron Jewell -
If I have offended you in any way, then I owe it to you and to myself to apologize ... and to do so sincerely. And I make that sincere apology now. Understandably, you are not obligated to accept any apology whatsoever, but I would like for you to do so, and I owe it myself to offer it ... and move on with life!

Posted by kwsrgraves (anonymous) on November 2, 2009 at 7:02 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Rickey, I merely repeated back what you have posted MANY times. During last years presidential election you were the one who boasted of being half/half. Those were YOUR OWN WORDS turned back at you. When it was your own argument and benifitted you it was fine. The word was Granola. That's not a racist word. It's the ONLY term for people living in California. Those who aren't fruits or nuts, are flakes! Russian royalty, ha, ha. Illegitimate, I have NO doubt for you there pal! Your words.

You now claim to be half Negro, half Caucasion, Roman-Catholic, Illegitimate Russian Royalty...who loves to see Southern Baptist churches burned. Wooohhhhoooo! This gets better as it goes! Thanks for the comic relief before work on a Monday morning!

Posted by Likeitreallymatters (anonymous) on November 2, 2009 at 7:29 a.m. (Suggest removal)

There were 3 brothers named Sit Down, Shut Up, and Trouble. One day Trouble got lost, so Sit down and Shutup went to the police. The officer sat down with them and asked their names and they said "Sit Down and Shutup" Taken aback, the officer asked them to repeat themselves. They said, "Sit Down and Shutup" At that point the officer glared at the boys and asked, "Boys, are you looking for trouble!?"

Posted by kittycreek (anonymous) on November 2, 2009 at 1:14 p.m. (Suggest removal)

You guys are so much fun! What a funny comment section.

Posted by dottie2008 (anonymous) on November 2, 2009 at 4:12 p.m. (Suggest removal)

kw, I understand where you are coming from. I remember the days and nights back in the day to where it was quite and you could look up at the sky at night and see all the stars and so forth. And I also remember when it wasn't as much crime.
I look back on the days when the teens ( us) use to ride town on a Friday and Saturday night and cruise the parking lots where Mckinnons is now and the old pizza hut.
But as we all know change is going to come.
I am not one to work for min wage. But if it means that some people can at least get a job and just maybe come off welfare I think that having places built would be good.
I hate knowing that the money I make alot goes to support people on welfare that are actually to lazy to get off their butts and go to work.
The one thing I hate more than anything in the world is people who actually owns land that goes and sells it just so more houses can be built.
I love the wild life but it can't survive when people are tearing all the land up that they life on.
I got tired of the city life so to speak and moved away.
Where I live now is perfect, it's quite no traffic except for the 6 families that live on the road that I do.
I can walk out and see the stars and the wild life and it's peaceful, except for a few boats going down the river ever now and then. And maybe a dog bark when he sees a deer or rabbit or the cows in the pasture behind me.
I was only saying that the growth could help some.
True Chilton County does not need another fast food joint or anymore motels.. But folks do need jobs so they can stop getting welfare, food stamps and so forth.
I don't know about you but I am tired of paying these lazy folks way. We both know that as far as Chilton County having any places that you care to shop at isn't there.
That's why many folks go out of their way to do all their shopping. Hope all this works out for everyone there.

Posted by kwsrgraves (anonymous) on November 2, 2009 at 6:57 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Agreed Dottie. I would have thought you were old enough to remember cruising to Baron's parking lot, past MCKinnon's which was A&P Grocery. I live EXACTLY 2 miles off of US 31. I grew up in my neighborhood, Maple Springs. I remember when Freddy Headly's FULL SERVICE Chevron, Alice's Kitchen, and Tinks, (which was where Waffle House is now), was all there was at the 205 exit. Mallory's Gulf station was where Subway is now. We could see the actual "milky" part of the Milky Way. County Road 7 was dirt. I wish it were STILL that way! Wal-Mart didn't exist! Oh what good times! But I now live in a subdivision that used to be a cotton field. We bought it, developed it, and yes, made money from it. I still have the morning sunrise view of cows, horses, deer and turkeys. It's a little more populated. The money from that population has made life more comfortable for some. But yes, I miss the "good old days". In the "good old days" cokes were ¢15. I didn't have a nickle and a dime to rub together to wish for a coke. Now they are $2.00 each. I can afford a truckload. So much for some parts of the good ole days! Sadly, in some twisted way, we, with diseases like Swine Flu, Cancer, AIDS, West Nile, etc...are headed for a population decline like in the good ole days. BE CAREFUL WHAT YOU WISH FOR! That statement is a two edged sword too!

Posted by Rickey (anonymous) on November 2, 2009 at 7:22 p.m. (Suggest removal)

graves -
You are a bold face LIE! Never once have I ever claimed to be half "Negro". We don't use that terminology any longer, simply because it was a term applied to us by some other group of people. As I am NOT politically correct, personally I don't use the term African-American either. One of my parents was white and one of them was black (and it is not important which was which) and this is how I come up with half and half. And to this very day, when I am filling out forms, the respective establishment wants me to pick one or the other. Try finding half and half as a catagory on any form. They think you're talking about some kind of dairy product. When filling out forms, I simply draw an extra square and check it off. I still am half black and half white; I still am Roman Catholic; and I still am descended from an illigitimate Russian royal line; and as for the comment about the church burning ... I made the comment; apologized for it; and moved on with my life! But you keep dwelling on all of it, if that is what entertains you. And, oh, by the way ... keep on working --- you are the reason I get paid ... every frick'in month ... rain or shine! And I'll be spending Christmas in Paris --- thanks to you :)

Posted by rjjr (anonymous) on November 2, 2009 at 7:28 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Apology accepted Rickey.

Thank you

Posted by November162000 (anonymous) on November 2, 2009 at 8:29 p.m. (Suggest removal)

On more than one count it appears that Rickey is more screwed up than a soup sandwich. He sure is fun to watch, though, as we wind him up and let him go. Sort of like one of those spinning tops that we used to play with as kids.

Posted by kwsrgraves (anonymous) on November 2, 2009 at 8:47 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Rickey, you called me a "liar", yet confirmed EVERYTHING I typed as TRUE. I should have used the "proper" terms of Negroid and Caucasiod. Those are in Webster's dictionary. If you were in Austrailia, "creamy" would still be proper. If you were in your "motherland", you might, just plain be killed for being inferior to a TRUE Russian. If you were in the lower Luzon of the Phillipines, I am sure you would be referred to as a "Benni-boy". For those that really served in the military and were there, we know you fit that category! Suck it up, boy!

Posted by November162000 (anonymous) on November 2, 2009 at 9:30 p.m. (Suggest removal)

kw: I think Rickey is having a hard time keeping track of all of his inconsistencies and embellishments. I can understand how that could be.

Posted by kwsrgraves (anonymous) on November 2, 2009 at 9:40 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Yup, like watching a monkey chasing his tail!

Posted by gonefishen (anonymous) on November 2, 2009 at 10:17 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I don't know about the monkey, but he may be a Benni/Billi-Boy chasing his tie up string.

Posted by Rickey (anonymous) on November 3, 2009 at 3:21 a.m. (Suggest removal)

graves -
I never called you a liar ... I called you a BOLD FACE LIAR, and you still are! You ain't shown yet where I referred to myself as a Negro and yet you claim that I said that. Why not just use the terms "black" or "white" or "mixed" ... or can it be that those one syllable words cause too much difficulty for you? Anyway, I've got you figured out ... you just want to insult people and argue with people just so that you will have something to type about and entertain yourself. Go ahead mf, but you won't hear from me again personally. I thought this sight was to create a creative forum where people with various opinions came together and exchanged such opinions so that we could all grow and become better human beings. Clearly I was WRONG. There is one or two people who want to rag on everybody else and every now and again we get somebody who really sounds sincere, non-judgemental, non-offensive, and no personal attacks. In future, these are the people to whom I will relate.

Posted by rjjr (anonymous) on November 3, 2009 at 6:55 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Rickey, the hypocrisy you just spewed is sickening .

Since you live in California, why don't you go relate with someone more your type on the San Fransisco Craigs list. I'm fairly certain that a little illegitimate princes, like yourself, will have no problem finding someone to grow with on that site.

Posted by dottie2008 (anonymous) on November 3, 2009 at 8:11 a.m. (Suggest removal)

kw do you remember the old curve market that is where the store is beside dari- land or whatever Ms. Ruth calls it now?
Also the drive in, I use to be able to sit on the front steps of my grandmother's house and watch all the movies.
You are right today we do have Aids, West Nile, Swine Flu, and the Mad Cow Disease.. Back in our day we didn't here of none of that. The doctor's that we had was Dr. Johns And the Moore doctors. Which Charles Moore delivered me when I was born.
And their offices is where the First Baptist has taken over.
Remember Pig Headleys Super Market that was where the First Baptist built the new addition to the church.
And Dr. Johns office was where the strip Mall is beside the John Deere tractor is.. Thinking back on the good ole days brings back some wonderful memories of what Clanton once was. Another memory Wal- Mart was where Kaycees is and Winn Dixie was where Freds is.
And I remember the area where the Winn Dixie is now that it was only a big field and there was a trailer place there among other things.
Sad part of it all is all the simple things that we remember from then are gone away and are replaced with what everyone says is growth. " Including Myself" ... I sure miss those days.
Kids today would say we are ancient but that's okay.
Because they have no idea how much we enjoyed the way of life back then. Thanks for the walk down memory lane.

Posted by November162000 (anonymous) on November 3, 2009 at 8:27 a.m. (Suggest removal)

kw: I see that Rickey thinks you are Mighty Fine. I suppose that's what he means by the two letters that he wrote. So, if you're mighty fine to Rickey, then you're mighty fine to me! :P

rjjr: I suggested to Rickey over a year ago that he should work to straighten out all of the problems in California, where HE lives, and let us work to straighten out the problems here in Chilton County where WE live. He prefers, though, to make ridiculous comments about things here that can in no way affect him there. A few of us, mostly me until recently, have pointed out the absurdity that he spews but he keeps right own stepping in his own poo, time after time. I suppose that most folks have just been rolling their eyes instead of calling him out on his absurdity. I can only deduce that he is a masochist. (Well, actually, I can deduce other things but I'll let it go at masochist.) But, he sure is fun to slap around!

Posted by kwsrgraves (anonymous) on November 3, 2009 at 10:20 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Yeah, November, the CA comment patrol has relaxed some as of late.

Dottie, I do remember the Curb Market. It was there before the "old" Sonic was built. Chilco Quickfreeze was next to the Ford/Clanton Tractor place where Winn Dixie is now. Highway 31 Café was where Peachtree Bank is. Drivers Bar-B-Que was where Bates Pool store is. Steeter Corp was behind Gray and Son's. Dr. Johns had a back door and waiting room for "colored" patients. Mr Bowden ran a nice gas station next to the Harley Davidson shop by the Highschool. Times, they are a changin!

Posted by kwsrgraves (anonymous) on November 3, 2009 at 11:11 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Dottie, we forgot Dr. Foshee. A good doctor, good pilot, and good christian man. Then there was Dr Joe Hall Johnson. He set my broken arm when I was 8 years old. His breath that morning made ME feel drunk. He dropped the syringe as it was sticking in my wrist. A knot, literally, bubbled up under the skin. I yelled, threw up, and he began cussing me. My mother passed out watching and he told her in some unkind words to leave, after Sandy, his nurse, revived her with a wet rag and an amonia popper. He did fix my arm though. We travelled down this memory lane a few months ago. But it's still fun to take the trip.

Posted by dottie2008 (anonymous) on November 3, 2009 at 3:43 p.m. (Suggest removal)

You are right we forgot about those people, and it is nice to take a trip down memory lane ever now and then.
I remember when I was young and my great- grandparents would say back in our day we walk three miles in the snow to go to school and we always thought they was crazy, but yet here we are today telling our kids and so forth the same things. Funny how things go and what all we can remember.
It's also sad that the good ole days are gone but they aren't forgotten. We are older and alot wiser now. Things back then was so simple and we very rarely had crime as we do today.
And back then people stood together and was always there to lend a hand to someone in need.
Back in those days you could stop and help someone that had broke down on the side of the road, today we can't do that because it's really hard to trust a stranger.
Thanks for the trip down memory lane, let's me know just what I am thankful for today.

Posted by kittycreek (anonymous) on November 3, 2009 at 5:17 p.m. (Suggest removal)

dottie,

Dr. Charles Moore used to take care of my grandfather--My grandmother didn't drive and my grandfather was in a wheel chair and almost blind. Dr. Moore would drive down to Mt. Creek and take care of him anytime of the day or night.

House calls----that's something you don't see any more.

Posted by kwsrgraves (anonymous) on November 3, 2009 at 7:12 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Dottie, remember the pool hall where the fishing hole is now? Piggly Wiggly was where Carport Auto is? Kate Jackson's (original Charlie's Angel) grandmother lived where Regions Bank is? Fred's was Where the BP is on the corner of Jackson Ave and 31? The old Hotel next to Western Auto where T's gun and pawn is? Riverview restaurant out near Lay Dam? TeePee restaurant near Blue Creek? The old theater where Josie and Wylies naughty store is? The OLD Elmore 5¢ and 10¢ store was next to Edward's Jewelery? Remember when burglars cut through Sutley Jewelery Store and stole jewels? I have even seen pictures of 2nd Ave with horses tied to hitching post and the street was dirt. Bennet's, which used to be Watson's, was either Pizitz or JC Penneys. And Chilton Feed and Seed was a full fledged brothel next to the train depot. The old Wadsonian Theater was across the train tracks. Verbena had a motorcycle/small engine/hardware store. There was a veterinarian who lived a couple of blocks away from there. There were the rock quarries and the graphite mines on each end of the county. The ferry still crossed the Coosa. The old powerhouse with Westinghouse switchgear was still in use at Mitchell Dam. All of that switchgear is STILL there! That was craftsmanship! Remember when the Nuclear Regulatory Commission approved a Nuclear Powerhouse Permit in Marbury in 1972? I have been to the site twice. The last time was in 1988. It still had an antenna station surrounded by a chainlink fence with concertino wire and signs stating, "Deadly Force Authorized". However there was no one there. Mitchell Dam actually had real live security guards. Now they have a camera monitered in Elmore County. Don't believe that one, pull up to the gate and press the button. Belcher's store was still open on 22 west. Ma Bates was still wearing a moomoo, huggin some, pointing her knarled finger at others. Martin's funeral home was on Highway 31 near Autozone. Then it was a hamburger joint, that didn't last long! Mercer Funeral Home was on 145. And I-65 only ran from Alabaster to Prattville. You had to pass cars and trucks slowly on the 31 bridge over the Alabama River. George Wallace was still walking, and very much ALIVE. There was the 31 roadside park north of Prattville where a young lady was murdered while walking her dog. Crime was always here, just less publicized. Remember the Hog Creek Murder mystery? Times have changed.

Posted by dottie2008 (anonymous) on November 4, 2009 at 3:57 p.m. (Suggest removal)

kw, Yes I remember the old pool hall, spend many of a weekend there. Yes I remember the house that Kate Jacksons grandmother own. It shocked me that they tore it down.
And the old western auto. I remember as a child that is where my dad would go and get things that he needed. And the TP, I really spend many times down there partying. And at Rock Quarry also. Then later in years people started destroying the area as well as all the old graves that is there. I also remember when I was young that if you wanted beer you had to drive to Autuga county and get it , the store was called the pop and top, and attorney powers own it, or should I say his son.
Think that they finally blocked it all off and restored all the graves that are there.
I know you remember the old grist mill, you used to be able to fish there. I think that it was sold and the people that own it now re-done it and at one time re-opened it and was selling mill. And I know you remember Easterling's Restaurant that was there on 31, as a teen I worked for Clifford and Squirt.. And down at the interstate you had several restaurants one being the peach restaurants that was where Burger King is. Then you had Buddy Champbliss place also. I worked at both of the places when I was 15 and 16 Years old. Jacks was where the mexican restaurant is and Churches Chicken was right across the road. Also you had Grays Auto there where the pawn shop across from the city shop. We could go on all day about memories of the past.
kittycreek, I do remember when doctor's made house calls.
That wouldn't happen today with the doctor's that are there.
kw, do you remember what other kind of Doctor that Johns was? Let's see how many people can remember...
Now the old Mercer Funeral Home is a church now, and I know the Pastor and his family. Really great people.
There was a game room where Carpet Village is, but it never lasted too long and if I am not mistaken it was also a movie theater . I may be wrong but seems like I remember it being a theater at one time.
Anyway the more we think the more we come up with.
I went to school with a guy name Scott Graves are ya'll kin or is it your son?

Posted by kwsrgraves (anonymous) on November 4, 2009 at 7:16 p.m. (Suggest removal)

My baby idiot brother. The theater was Mart 1&2. Pop a Top was owned by the Boggs'. I remember when the first Jack's was built. Whaley Auto Parts was next to the Firestone building. Shag Smitherman had the store across the street. Ford was across from Rip Starr Yamaha. Henley's Chevron and Schneider's Taxi Cab was down the street. Lorche's Diamond store was on the corner of 31 and 2nd ave. And Dr. Johns was only an MD, but would treat you in his barn too. Joe Moore would treat your goat out back. And if you stopped in Snowey's out on 22, someone might get your goat! LOL!