Posted by travlr423 (anonymous) on October 6, 2009 at 1:19 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I certainly hope that standing up for what is right does not include physically assaulting someone over a ball game. It would certainly be embarrassing to know that this is the kind of individuals we have representing our county through any capacity.
So since there is much more to this story than we know, maybe it would be fitting to fill us in. Because from the highlights of this story it appears to be some extreme inappropriate and unbecoming behavior.

Posted by OutOfTown (anonymous) on October 6, 2009 at 3:31 a.m. (Suggest removal)

As a police officer myself, I have witnessed people get arrested under circumstances where the arrestee might not be guilty. Not to say the officer is wrong or did not perform his job to the best of his ability. Sometimes in a disorderly crowd he might have to pick out the person that appears to be the trouble maker, not knowing what events occurred up to that point. That's what court is for, to listen to witnesses and get the facts. I know Mr. Mims and even though he is quick to say what is on his mind, I find it hard to believe he would just assault someone out of the blue. Just remember everybody unless you were there don't jump to any conclusions........Good Luck Tim, hang in there

Posted by luckyme (anonymous) on October 6, 2009 at 3:51 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Well all the story really says is there's more to the story. Big help.

Anyone know what happened?

Posted by carol (anonymous) on October 6, 2009 at 5:39 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Although I am one usually to make quick judgment myself, I have to say we should not judge or condemn anyone until all the facts are in. (actually, WE'RE not supposed to judge anyone) I'm glad Tim has witnesses so maybe this mess can be cleaned up quickly.
I hope Tim is alright.

Posted by kwsrgraves (anonymous) on October 6, 2009 at 6:41 a.m. (Suggest removal)

OutofTown, you are saying police officers arrest people just because they are in the area, not necessarily the culprit. Kind of the, "let's arrest whomever and IF they are innocent, then the legal fees and character tarnishment is their problem." Which department do you work for?

Posted by MHSALUM (anonymous) on October 6, 2009 at 7:33 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Tim Mims did nothing but put his hand out to a police officer and to try to tell the person NEXT to him to calm down, BEFORE he got into trouble. This crazed police man kicked his feet out from under him so fast and knocked him down, you thought you were watching the tv series COPS! The Maplesville police as well as several reserves were doing a good job of keeping the crowd back. But anyone that tried to help were threatened to be arrested as well! This is also one of the same crazed policemen, that was on the field when we had a guy down with his hand on his gun, ready to draw at any second! Why would a policeman be on the field? Noone had been called to the field? (not that they had any paramedics or any medical supplies on stand by or anything, not even a stretcher to carry the boy off the field with!) You can watch the playback and see this guy with his hand on his gun, on the film! Ready to draw a gun, on a field with a bunch of high school kids. You can even see on the playback that LINDEN'S ref even had to ask this officer to leave the field, he even knew this guy was out of hand! As far as the other guy that was arrested, he did nothing but go back in to get a child! The police said they "saw it in his eyes" that he had been drinking! Hmm..that sounds crazy to me. Especially after he ASKED to be given a breathalizer test 4 times while he was at the jail and was not given one! How is that public intoxication? I sincerely hope that our kids nor our fans never have to be in this place again. With this type of police "protection", there is no telling what could happen! It was YELLED numerous times that neither of these people would be out of jail until 8 the next morning. Apparently someone higher up thought differently, cause they were both at home, safe by 2am! Before everyone jumps to conclusions, you need to hear the full story. Both of these people have the support of the Maplesville community behind them, with the truth. There were many camera's filming and taking pictures. Good Luck to both of these guys, lets hope that JUSTICE will be on their side!

Posted by SECorBust (anonymous) on October 6, 2009 at 8:03 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Well Mike it looks like there is alot more to this story than what came off of the police blotter. Assault III as I understand it is pretty much the act of looking aggressive. Everyone knows that you treat police officers with respect. You never do anything or say anything to the police that can be taken as a threat because they have to deal with so much scum that they have a hard time telling the innocent from the scum in the few seconds that they have to make life saving decisions. Mims is probably guilty and should pay the fine and move on. I'm not sure he should be on the Commission. None of my friends would ever be caught drunk or beligerent at a highschool football game.

Posted by imaplumber (anonymous) on October 6, 2009 at 8:41 a.m. (Suggest removal)

MHSALUM , what game were you at? The "crazed policeman" ran on to the field with a man down to see if they needed the ambulance, which was stationed across the street in the restaurant parking lot (I parked next to it).
And the teams probably will meet again in the playoffs if Maplesville gets far enough into them and Linden will probably host.

All this takes away from what was a really good football game. You want to blame the City of Linden for what happened go ahead but that's pretty juvenile.

Posted by Witness123 (anonymous) on October 6, 2009 at 8:59 a.m. (Suggest removal)

imaplumber,,,I was also at the game and the Linden Police dept took everything to the extreme....I witnessed the whole thing Tim Mims did nothing nor did the other guy that
was arrested..neither one of them were drunk or "beligerent"....as far as the police officer running out on the field with his gun ready to be pulled its all on
video..he WAS NOT THERE TO HELP THE HURT PLAYER...its plan as day on the video tape and even the Ref had the crazed police officer to back OFF....The two guys were taken
to jail to prove some kinda point......nothing was juvenile
about the situation with the exception of the way the police officers acted......they both asked numerous times for breath tests....to prove they had NOT AND I REPEAT "NOT" been drinking....but were denied the tests...
So please do not defend the officers of Linden...they do not deserve it.....

Posted by southernpride (anonymous) on October 6, 2009 at 9:16 a.m. (Suggest removal)

First of all Carol we should judge people and are required to do so. How else would you know who you should or shouldn't associate with? But that is another story.

Everyone knows that there are instances when a police officer will overreact to a situation. Somehting we are all probably guilty of at some point and time.

I appreciate the ones that have explained what happened. It sounds like Mr. Mims may be completely innocent.

I have seen what I believe was innocent people get convicted and I have seen what I believe to be guilty people not be convicted. The legal system is not perfect which is of little comfort to those falsely accussed or convicted.

Posted by MomOf2 (anonymous) on October 6, 2009 at 9:23 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Where did the altercation take place?? On the field? If they were on the field, shame on them, that is not the place for fans/spectators, only if they were the parent of a downed player did they need to even come out of the stands.

Posted by MHSALUM (anonymous) on October 6, 2009 at 9:35 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Momof2...This was not on the field. This was towards the end of the ballgame, in the 4th quarter, on the sidelines. The incidents on the field had nothing to do with eachother, except for the fact that you could see how out of line the policeman was with his hand on his gun, the entire time he was out on the field with the hurt player. This may be a common problem with Linden, who knows? But this is not what the Maplesville police, players and spectator's are used to!

Posted by Witness123 (anonymous) on October 6, 2009 at 9:41 a.m. (Suggest removal)

The police officer was on the field when the injured player was hurt and the Linden side showed no compassion that the player was injured...they were jumping up & down with excitement....it was unsportsman like conduct until the ref made the linden players finally take a knee....

As far as the arrests go this all took place off the field
below the stands...not on the field...everything just got
out of hand quick and two innocent bystanders are having to
pay the price for something they didnt do and im sure its hard for them to JUST PAY THE FINE AND MOVE ON...when they honestly didnt do anything to cause them to have to go to jail.

Posted by November162000 (anonymous) on October 6, 2009 at 9:43 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Mr. Mims is not my favorite person, but if he is not at fault for this incident and was only doing the right thing at the time then I hope he comes out of this situation unscathed. I have seen A LOT more out-of-control police officers than I have out-of-control county commissioners. IF this police officer is a bull in a china shop as it sounds, then HE needs to be in jail and looking for another line of work.

Posted by 2mom (anonymous) on October 6, 2009 at 10:24 a.m. (Suggest removal)

For some of you on here that want to question Tim Mims character.....Im going to give it to you plain and simple, Tim Mims was trying to do what he thought was the right thing to do, which was stand up and speak up against the cops that were in the wrong!!! If more people would stand up for what they believe in, and not just talk about it, then this country would be what it was meant to be, a nation of individuals with great courage and integrity! Not a bunch of right wing cowards willing to bow down and take it.

Posted by OutOfTown (anonymous) on October 6, 2009 at 10:39 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Mr. Graves I really do not won’t to get in to a debate with you or anybody else that post remarks here on the advertiser, because I do think it is juvenile. But this time I will make an exception. Even though it’s my first time, I just wanted to comment in regards to the article in today’s paper and show my support for Mr. Mims. As to the arrest or any arrest there might have been circumstances that would make the officer believe he was the primary aggressor. Sometimes arrest is made on citizens where the officer had probable cause and the officer did nothing wrong. Not everybody that gets arrested is guilty, not everything is always black and white and if it was our job would be a lot easier. As for myself and most of the police I have worked with, we do not take any arrest lightly by just arresting whomever, but we are human and do make mistakes just like anybody else. So I’m sure you can read this and interpret it anyway you want, like you probably do every comment posted in the paper.

Posted by southernpride (anonymous) on October 6, 2009 at 11:02 a.m. (Suggest removal)

OutOfTown

I agree with your comment for the most part. However, there are overzealous cops out there!! They have the authority complex as do some judges and other individuals.

However, this is not the vast majority of police. However, a bad apple spoils the bunch when it comes to public opinion.

Posted by travlr423 (anonymous) on October 6, 2009 at 11:23 a.m. (Suggest removal)

2mom,
how come i never read articles in the paper where he is standing against local law enforcement officers who are displaying inappropriate behavior. and apparently this event happened to take place out of town, and shouldn't his first priority according to your theory be speaking out in his own community. What you are ultimately saying is one of two things or a combination of both. He will stand up for what is right every where except his own community where he like everyone else as you say turns into a coward OR because of his relationship with his own community and officers as not to step on toes when it comes to their own community they just ignore each others appropriate behavior. Just find it strange that i never read any articles relating to your defence for this man.

Posted by RI_comment (anonymous) on October 6, 2009 at 11:30 a.m. (Suggest removal)

how is it that mr Mahan could be charged with public intoxication, if he was not given a breathilizer? I am just curious.

Posted by MHSkyfan (anonymous) on October 6, 2009 at 11:31 a.m. (Suggest removal)

EXCUSE ME, SECorBUST!!!! Sounds to me like you're making a whole lot of assumptions here about something you know absolutely nothing about!! Were you there?? Did you witness any of this mess?? Do you even know Tim Mims?? Evidently not, because if you did (no offense Tim) you would know that there is absolutely nothing about Tim that looks aggressive!!!! There was nothing being said to the "police officers" at all!! It was all aimed at the refs and their inability to make a descent call all night as well as the fans from Linden!! Tim, unfortunately, was a victim of being in the wrong place at the wrong time, I know this because I was standing not 2 feet from him. Those cops had been standing on the sideline and heard all of us complaining and fussing about all the bad calls and they come around the fence and reached for the man standing on the other side of Tim and told him he was under arrest. (For what, I have no idea!!) Tim just put his hands out between them and was asking the cop what for??? Then they grabbed him! He had his back to one of the cops that PUSHED HIM forward and kicked his feet out from under him!!!! He went FLYING on to the ground!!!! They jumped on top of him like a pack of wolves out for the kill!!! (4 to 5 of them) We were all stunned!!!! I have never witnessed anything like this before in my life. There is no way those cops could have considered him to be any kind of threat!!! Then, when his wife came up and seen the condition of her husband on the ground with cops piled on top of him, she, of course, started freaking out!!! She was afraid he was about to have a heart attack or something!!! He was obviously hurt, but the cops on top of him with their knees in his back were more concerned with wanting to spray everyone in the crowd with pepper spray.

I was not a witness to the other altercation, but after seeing the way the "COPS" handled Tim, I feel certain they were most likely out of line. The fact that they refused to give him a breathalizer test, at his request, should be cause for the Public Intoxication charge to be dropped. I don't think, "I could see it in your eyes" will stand up in court. Do You???

If Maplesville should have to return to Linden for the playoffs, I hope Mrs. Hicks will do everything in her power to have the game moved to a neutral location. I have traveled around this state for years watching Maplesville play and I have never seen anything like what we all experienced Friday. When we were leaving the stadium, Linden fans were telling us to go home and cussing us. Then, when Linden's football team was coming thru the parking lot to leave, football players were hanging out of the bus windows screaming, flipping birds and using vulger profanity toward our fans. A REAL CLASS ACT!!!

Posted by travlr423 (anonymous) on October 6, 2009 at 11:33 a.m. (Suggest removal)

2mom,
Also it is my personal opinion that Mr. Mims allowed his own character to be put into question.
After all an Assault charge being placed on any individual of all places an event surrounding children should be questionable especially that of an individual holding any official capacity.

Posted by mapmom (anonymous) on October 6, 2009 at 11:39 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Linden should not be allowed to play in the playoffs...pure & simple. This all goes back to the parents of these Linden players...no morals...no respect for other people....this kind of "player" does not deserve to be in the playoffs.
Maplesville Team & Cheerleaders you are the best out there heart & soul!! God's speed & keep your heads high because you are "THE BEST"..VERY CLASSY!!!

Posted by kwsrgraves (anonymous) on October 6, 2009 at 11:41 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Out, I am not interpreting anything. You claim to be a police officer. I simply asked where. You are hiding behind an anonymous moniker. I really shouldn't expect anything less.

I have a video of a Clanton police officer pulling into the parking lot of Stokes Cheverolet, getting out of his vehicle at 1:00 a.m., pistol drawn and pointing at cars. I had flown into Birmingham on the late flight, my wife picked me up, and we stopped at Stokes ], because I wanted her to look at a Dodge Charger. She had no clue what one looked like. This officer shined his spotlight on our car then did a u-turn across two lanes of traffic to give us his best Barney Fife impression. I just thought he may have been you. Sounds like you share his mentality. I used to work with the officer that did this. He never acknowledged we were there. He looked in two cars then left. We laughed the whole time. However, upon leaving, KW told me his actions scared her. As he could have done a whole list of other dumb actions. If you want to see the video, I have it on my phone. If this was you, you might want to take a self confidence course.

Posted by larry (anonymous) on October 6, 2009 at 11:46 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Several people have made comments about watching the FILM. Is it on Youtube or another web site? I would like to see for my self.

Posted by kwsrgraves (anonymous) on October 6, 2009 at 11:54 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I was NOT at this ballgame. But the Alabama legislature passed a bill, and Goober Riley signed it into law. It makes harassing a sports official during a ballgame a CRIME. If Tim was even yelling at the ref, then, he is guilty of this relatively new law. Again, I was NOT there and am NOT passing judgement on this situation. I would be concerned over this person claiming to be a police officer, condoning the actions, as portrayed, by the Linden officers.

Posted by travlr423 (anonymous) on October 6, 2009 at 11:55 a.m. (Suggest removal)

MHskyfan,
while i will agree that these cops seemed to be out of order. I will also say that Mr. Mims should know better to extend his hand to an officer especially one who is over anxious with his powers. Now i probably would have done the same thing and i would have also went to jail. But i do not share his official capacity so i do it no one really cares.
If this game was not being called fairly and there was that much tension, Any adults that were there had the option of getting into their vehicles and leaving. But if one chooses to indulge their self in such an environment where their character may be provoked, who can sympathise.

Posted by MHSALUM (anonymous) on October 6, 2009 at 12:38 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Tim Mims being a public official has nothing to do with this! Taking his commissioner status away, he is still an individual, as was the other man that was taken in. Neither of them did anything wrong. I have known both people all my life and neither of them are ones to confront anyone! Tim tried to talk to one of the people to calm them down, then the police came in. The other guy just tried to help a histerical child to get to her parents. Both of these people as well as the supporters were victimized here. We had children that witnessed this ordeal and now they think the very people that they are not to be scared of, are lunatics! I don't know all of the rules at a football game. But, I have been to very few that the ref's were always agreed with and that this opinion was not spoken. And for the record. Most of the people that were at this game had a child or relative on the field. The way these players and fans were acting, who would have left the game, without being scared to death that one of their family could be hurt on that football field!

Posted by bestofchilton (anonymous) on October 6, 2009 at 1:04 p.m. (Suggest removal)

While MHS fans are loyal and possibly fanatical at times, I have never known them to be violent. There has to have been some cause for the behaviors that are discussed here.

Posted by travlr423 (anonymous) on October 6, 2009 at 1:29 p.m. (Suggest removal)

well personally i can not make heads or tails from all the different things i am hearing, And i am not judging Mr. Mims as a person, but more as to why he would allow his character as an official to be jeopardised, why not just take your child and leave. why would anyone want their child to be involved or in an environment where they feared for their safety. and through reading most of these statements by people that witnessed the actions that took place it was an escalating event that could have turned out much much worse than it did. why would you want to put that kind of stress or risk on children, and what kind of life lesson did these young people gain from this whole experience.
If i hear the whistle blowing, i dont have to see the train to know its quickly approaching. It is referred to as the Law of common sence and practical judgment.

Posted by JanineS22 (Jan Smith) on October 6, 2009 at 2:03 p.m. (Suggest removal)

The fact that Mr. Mims is a commissioner DOES have something to do with this. The fact that we are reading this article is simply because he is an elected public official. The point travlr made (too bad some didn't get it!) is that if someone not in a public position (like me) were to have had this same run-in with the Lindon police, we would not have made the front page news. I don't believe he was indicating that he should be held to a higher standard because of his position. Right is right. Wrong is wrong.

Posted by southernpride (anonymous) on October 6, 2009 at 2:07 p.m. (Suggest removal)

From what I hear of the reseidents of Linden, just consider the people there and the expected behavior. However, I have never been there so I can't say this for sure but when you hear others speak ill of Linden, one would wonder.

Posted by imaplumber (anonymous) on October 6, 2009 at 2:14 p.m. (Suggest removal)

mapmom,
Keeping the Linden players out the playoffs is asinine, especially since THEY DID NOTHING WRONG!
They didn't even get a penalty.
Tim Mims got arrested for "doing what he thought was right". Who cares?
Apparently what he thought was right was against the law because he got arrested for it.
This whole thread is getting silly.

A commissioner got arrested at a football game and now you want to keep an entire school out of the playoffs or move any future games to a neutral site because TIM MIMS DID SOMETHING WRONG!?

Get real.

If anything, Tim Mims should be banned from the games. He's the only one that managed to get himself arrested.

Posted by bestofchilton (anonymous) on October 6, 2009 at 2:27 p.m. (Suggest removal)

The Linden players showed disrespect when the MHS player was injured during the 4th quarter. The players also were unsportsmanlike after the game when they shouted obscenities and used vulgar hand gestures. They should be held responsible for their actions.

Posted by MHSALUM (anonymous) on October 6, 2009 at 2:46 p.m. (Suggest removal)

IMAPLUMBER...are you a Maplesville fan? Not sure what you could be doing at our games but with fan's like you, who needs enemy's like Linden? Thats just double trouble!

Posted by jchan (anonymous) on October 6, 2009 at 2:46 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I thought that Tim and someone else got arrested.

Posted by MHSkyfan (anonymous) on October 6, 2009 at 2:52 p.m. (Suggest removal)

No, you get real, imaplumber!!!!! Do you think for one minute that after the way the police officers, the fans AND the football team conducted themselves that any Maplesville Fan would feel safe coming back into that atmosphere????

Of course Linden never got a penalty on the field, the refs were covering for the HOME TEAM!!!! That was quite obvious! But I do question where any of the coaches, faculty or principal was when their football players were leaving the stadium yelling out such profanity and flipping birds to everyone they passed in the parking lot, even small children!!!!! That spoke volumes as to the character of those ball players and their coaches. Like I said before......A REAL CLASS ACT!!!!

Posted by countyresident (anonymous) on October 6, 2009 at 4:06 p.m. (Suggest removal)

OK I was NOT there..but I did see some of the film and the guy with jersey #1 from LInden was horrible and should have gotten several unsportsman like conducts called on him. I remember a number of years ago, Maplesville was playing a team (don't remember where) but the lights were knocked out by a faulty wire hanging down and we were on aluminum bleachers so everyone got off them and were heading towards their cars because they didn't feel very safe there. I know of another time when Jemison played at Clanton and there were rocks thrown at the Jemison band's bus. It's sad when you can't feel safe at a high school football game.

Posted by imaplumber (anonymous) on October 6, 2009 at 4:30 p.m. (Suggest removal)

MHSkyfan,
You gripe about the players and not feeling safe in "that atmosphere." If you played them at a neutral site, would that stop them from flipping you off? No.
Then you can't play them at that site, either. Or any other site because they might flip you off, which is obviously more than your little heart can take. Oh, no! Teenagers! Ahhhhh!!!!
Here's an idea: Let's force every team in Maplesville's region to forfeit! That way Maplesville gets a free ride to Birmingham where Sweet Water can Baptize them in the 1A championship game.
Then we can disqualify Sweet Water, too, and Maplesville will be champions!!

Yay!! Go Devils!!!

And you keep referring to the character of the players and coaches when Hubbert got tagged with a unsportsmanlike penalty only 30 seconds after two of his players did. What does that say about their character?

Posted by mememe (anonymous) on October 6, 2009 at 4:34 p.m.

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Posted by bestofchilton (anonymous) on October 6, 2009 at 4:35 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I don't think any team wants a free ride. It would be sufficient for a fair, safe game to be upheld by the officials.

Posted by imaplumber (anonymous) on October 6, 2009 at 4:42 p.m. (Suggest removal)

And that exactly the kind of game they got in Linden, bestofchilton.

1. It was fair. There were no complaints until Maplesville got behind and the quarterback got hurt. Were there some missed calls? Probably. There always is.
2. It was safe. Two people left that game in handcuffs. Both came from Maplesville.

Posted by bestofchilton (anonymous) on October 6, 2009 at 4:45 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Were any of the Linden players, coaches, fans tagged with unsportsmanlike conduct for their actions?

Posted by ccleckler (anonymous) on October 6, 2009 at 4:46 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I heard that this was a horrible game. I am not personally a Maplesville fan but I so know many of them and having talked to them at seperate times their stories are all to consistent for them to be false. They have all said that these people were out of control. I do wonder if any of you caught the fact that MHS people said they are not afraid to play them again on NEUTRAL territory. I feel that Maplesville will kick their butt on neutral ground and I am not even a fan, but nonsense is nonsense!! As for Tim thanks for trying to stand by the people of your community who was traveling to a crazy place. No matter where you are at you are still a comissioner and we appreciate that.

Posted by imaplumber (anonymous) on October 6, 2009 at 4:56 p.m. (Suggest removal)

bestofchilton, no they were not.

Posted by bestofchilton (anonymous) on October 6, 2009 at 5:05 p.m. (Suggest removal)

The fans, players and coaches are responsible for their actions and should have had a penalty of some type.

Posted by MHSkyfan (anonymous) on October 6, 2009 at 6:59 p.m. (Suggest removal)

imaplumber,
Who's talking juvenile now??? You are truly joking yourself if you think Maplesville got a fair game. You evidently were not watching the same game I was!!! Anyone that watches the playback @ the YourSchool website will agree. And no, teenagers are not a problem, when they've been raised to be honest, respectful and men of character. What I seen displayed by Linden on the field with the taunting of the crowd, cheap shots and cheering while a player is down, as well as their behavior when leaving the field indicates to me that they have not been raised to be respectful of others nor have they been made accountable for their actions while under the supervision of their school faculty or coaches.

Yes, our coach and a few players got out of hand that night, but not everyone knows everything that transpired during the week leading up to the game as well as what words were exchanged between the coaches on the field.

One thing is for sure. If we do meet again in the playoffs, and it can't be moved to a neutral location, you can bet that Maplesville will show up with a following like you've never seen. There will also be another plus....the refs will be state appointed, no HOME TOWN BOYS and we'll see how many of our "MEN IN BLUE" we can bring with us as well.

You see, there's one thing you'll never understand, the PRIDE, TRADITION & HONOR that comes with wearing a RED DEVIL uniform far out-weighs any QUESTIONABLE lose handed out by a group of misguided & disrespecful boys.

Posted by seriously (anonymous) on October 6, 2009 at 7:35 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Observation #1: This "unfaif" crowd is obviously the same ones that complain the other team is "running the score up".

Observation #2: One does not intervene in official police activity and claim it is "doing the right thing".

Posted by imaplumber (anonymous) on October 6, 2009 at 7:50 p.m. (Suggest removal)

MHSkyfan,
So I guess the refs cost you the game last year when Linden busted you 35-0? AT MAPLESVILLE!
"You see, there's one thing you'll never understand, the PRIDE, TRADITION & HONOR that comes with wearing a RED DEVIL uniform..."

You're right. I don't understand. Pride and Honor are not two things I associate with two fans getting arrested, coupled with the unsportsmanlike conduct penalties that basically killed any chance Maplesville had to win that game.

If that's your idea of pride, should be a great rematch in the playoffs.

Posted by kwsrgraves (anonymous) on October 6, 2009 at 7:56 p.m. (Suggest removal)

This is hilarious. It's more juvenile than an Obama-Tennessee football game. As for teenagers using profanity AFTER a football game, you should be on the field, under a helment. But mommie and daddy never see their kid playing wrong. This is a serious situation for Tim and David. And I don't see many comments supporting David Mahan. I don't know David, never heard of him. But I do believe some of these absurd, juvenile comments are fueld by a cause other than Tim being a good ole boy neighbor, or not.

Posted by bestofchilton (anonymous) on October 6, 2009 at 8:25 p.m. (Suggest removal)

ditto kw

Posted by bobbyb (anonymous) on October 6, 2009 at 9:35 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I was not at the game and know nothing more than what is posted here.
The people that did witness this need to get out from behind your screen names and let Tim and David know who you are. If you think they are not guilty then STAND UP AND SUPPORT your friends and neighbors when court time comes around. I would love to see about 400 witnesses for Tim and David fill the courtroom in Linden.
I hope someone from Maplesville has a good copy of the video tape. I would sure hate to depend on getting a copy from Linden.

Posted by rjjr (anonymous) on October 6, 2009 at 9:39 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I wonder if he'll get to deal with Isabella Hood and her wonderful organization/business to do drug testing and an anger management course??

Posted by Onevote32 (anonymous) on October 6, 2009 at 10:48 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Well first of all I was the Maplesville Police Officer that was on the scene. I have worn this uniform for the better part of 10 years and i have never seen an officer beat a man in handcuffs until friday night. I didn't see the so called push happen. I am a firm believer in if you need to go to jail so be it but what happend to mr. Mims was uncalled for and unprofessional by Marengo County and the city of Linden. Before people start to judge Mr. Mims for being arrested remember that everything is not always what it seems on paper. Just because you are charged doesn't mean your guilty. Mr. Mims did nothing but stand up for what is right and get assaulted.

Posted by MHSALUM (anonymous) on October 7, 2009 at 7:48 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Well I agree that this is hillarious! You have all of these people that are standing up for Tim & David & Maplesville in general. Yet you have IMAPLUMBER that is pretty much the only negative, non believeing poster on the site? That says alot folks! Tim is known by everyone in Maplesville & the most part of Chilton County, sure everyone will stand by him. David is a friend that came only to watch a team and pretty much ONE kid play football. He is not known by everyone in Maplesville, for that matter, alot of people didn't even see him when he was arrested. He was leaving the game, stepped back in to get a 10 year old child that was histerical! Noone in the group that was around had a clue of why he was being arrested and for that matter, even who he was. He was an innocent bystander that tried to help a 10 year old girl get to her parents! All he could be told by the officer was that "they saw it in his eyes that he had been drinking"! Yet, he must not have been drinking. Else, he would not have requested a breathalizer test so many times! These cops were itching to arrest someone, it was unreal! This guy was in the wrong place at the wrong time. I'm sure if you ask him if he would do the same again, the answer would be yes. Who would leave a child in danger with a police officer PUSHING her back, away from her parents? As far as the poor calls, Linden player & fan behavior, the www.yourschoollive.com playback, shows this as proof. I sincerely hope that both of these people get out of this mess unscathed. Anyone that says anything otherwise is a fool! As for the Devils, we can overcome this....We will keep our heads up and move on to the next game!

Posted by AUalum2006 (anonymous) on October 7, 2009 at 8:52 a.m. (Suggest removal)

WHO CARES!

Posted by Rickey (anonymous) on October 7, 2009 at 9:19 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I hope both Mr. Mims and Mr. Mahan sue the Linden police department and I'd really like to see them sue that "Barney Fife cop" personally. It is cops like him that give the rest a bad name. I ain't one that advocates suing somebody at the drop of a hat, but right is right and wrong is wrong! The Linden police officer knew he was WRONG! He just wanted to exercise his invested authority because he's got a uniform, a badge and a gun and I guess he's got to do something in Mayberry! I think most of us are intelligent enough to know that he is the exception when it comes to police officers. By far, the majority of police officers are there to help when help is needed. And as for Rambo Cop down in Linden ... well, he needs to do HIMSELF a favor and look into another line of work! But whatever he does, he would be the wiser to remember: DON'T MESS WITH THE RED DEVILS!

Posted by Mustangs2 (anonymous) on October 7, 2009 at 10:13 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I went to the Demoplis Times Newspaper website to see what they had to say about the game and under the opinions section there is an article about the game. It basically says that Maplesville was the bad team and that Linden did nothing wrong. I just thought that all of the MHS supporters might like to see this. The website is www.demopolistimes.com.

Posted by November162000 (anonymous) on October 7, 2009 at 10:18 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Onevote32: Now you know why so many people distrust law enforcement officers these days. I've seen LEO's abuse their authority several times in various parts of the country. Roughing someone up while handcuffed is only ONE manifestation of that. I think there was a situation in Birmingham that came to light recently where the cops severly beat someone that had been ejected from a car after a chase. I have no sympathy for the fool that ran from the cops, but I also have ZERO respect for the cops that couldn't spell professional, much less act that way. I hope the two Maplesville citizens prevail when this gets to court. I'd be looking for a change of venue, though.

Posted by DevilFan (anonymous) on October 7, 2009 at 10:48 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Mustangs2..
I wouldn't put a whole lot of trust in the article in the opinion section of the DemoplisTimes. They had it all wrong, beginning with the first sentence of their 'opinion'. Both men were taken to the SAME jail. Also, this person must not have been in the same parking lot I was when their football players were leaving on their bus yelling obscenities at our fans. I really hope there wasn't a coach on that bus and let them behave in that manner. You would NEVER hear that coming from a Maplesville bus of football players.
We did have some calls made on us that should have been avoided on our part, but after we had been getting the bad calls all night, I'm sure it was hard to swallow.
Maplesville has NEVER had an incident such as what happened in Linden..that should tell you something.
As for Mr. Mims and Mr. Mahan, I hope your charges are dropped because you were treated unfairly.

Posted by imaplumber (anonymous) on October 7, 2009 at 10:50 a.m. (Suggest removal)

How am I a "negative, non believeing poster."
Non-believing in what exactly?
Negative how?

All I've said is that those of you who act like Tim Mims is Batman for "standing up for what he thought was right" and who act like Linden should forfeit the rest of the season, be banned from the playoffs or not be able to host any rematch if they earn that right - all for supposedly flipping you the bird - are nuts. You want to shut down a football season because Linden didn't get penalized by the refs.

You jump all over an entire school for being classless and unsportsmanlike when Maplesville was the only school penalized for such behavior.

If you're a homer, and it's obvious you are, that's fine but use a little logic. To say everything bad that happened that night, from the arrests, to the hit on the QB, to the conduct fouls, to the supposed "no calls" on Linden and the "bird" incidents in the parking lot were in no way the fault of anyone who is from Maplesville is absurd.

I'm not Tim Mims nor the arresting officer but if the cop told him to sit down and shut up (which is basically what this looks like) he should have thought sitting down and shutting up was "the right thing to do."
If he had a problem with it, I'm sure Linden's mayor would have been glad to speak to him first thing Monday.

My point in all this is - and it has been all along - how that entire night went down could have been avoided. But you all want so desperately to blame someone else you won't see it.

Sure, it's all Linden's fault. They've had two other home games this year and not one complaint (that I know of). Maplesville goes to their town at it's just an awful place. Yep. You guys are right. Looks like Linden's the problem.

Posted by jchan (anonymous) on October 7, 2009 at 12:08 p.m. (Suggest removal)

you do sound a little negative when it comes to maplesville imaplumber.

Posted by 2mom (anonymous) on October 7, 2009 at 1:55 p.m. (Suggest removal)

travlr423

No Mr. Mims did not allow his character to be put into question.......let me say this, what Mr. Mims did, was stand up against a wrong!! It was wrong for the Linden cops to threaten people saying they would be put in jail if they did not shut-up! Well, hello! Last I heard this is the United States of America, where we the people, who live in the land of the free, are free to express themselves as long as you do it without threatening an individual, which clearly none of the MHS fans were doing! You can haggle the refs without being ugly, which is not against the law as long as there is no threat involved. Linden's officers were out to get someone on MHS's side....and that's the bottom line!! Mr. Mims stepped in after threats were made to MHS's fans, and basically called the officer's out on their threats and wrong-doing! So if you want to question his character...my opinion....it takes a REAL man to stand up against people that are in the wrong...and that's exactly what Commissioner Tim Mims did!!!

Posted by imaplumber (anonymous) on October 7, 2009 at 2:26 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Does anyone know what Glenda Strength and Tim Mims have in common? ...now

Posted by 2mom (anonymous) on October 7, 2009 at 2:52 p.m. (Suggest removal)

imaplumber:

Not a thing!!!!! So don't even go there!!

Posted by seriously (anonymous) on October 7, 2009 at 3:31 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Mims and Strength have both been arrested while serving on the County Commission.

Posted by November162000 (anonymous) on October 7, 2009 at 3:45 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Does anyone know what plumbers and crack heads have in common? CRACK!

Posted by cats5 (anonymous) on October 7, 2009 at 4:11 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I would like to say a few things to everyone reading this article. I am the wife of Tim Mims. We have always supported MHS football. We have not been able to attend any football games this year but in Linden Friday night due to my health reasons. We thought that we would go watch a good football game and enjoy a night out for a change. We have been to Linden before and never had any trouble. Maybe the trouble started last year when six of their fans were arrested for drug and alcohol use on school grounds. We had nothing to do with any of that. Tim is not in control of the police. That is why you have a sheriff and a county attornery. He will help anyone he can. The football team, coaches and fans were treated with disrespect. I have never witnessed anyone being treated like this a high school sporting event. There were 300+ people hollering at the officials. We have witnesses to everything that occured. WE WILL NOT pay a fine and go on for something that did not happen. I do not care if you are a Tim Mims fan or not. I hope that these comments find you all well. I would like to Thank Everyone for their thoughts and prayers. We didn't ask for this article to be in the paper. It's like living this nightmare over and over again. We have a young son and would appreciate everyone to respect and think about what you say. May God Bless Maplesville, Chilton County and USA.

Posted by cats5 (anonymous) on October 7, 2009 at 4:13 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Tim has NEVER BEEN ARRESTED

Posted by Easymoney (anonymous) on October 7, 2009 at 4:43 p.m. (Suggest removal)

RED > TIM
If you have five dollars and RED Turnipseed has five dollars, RED Turnipseed has more money than you.
There is no 'ctrl' button on RED Turnipseed computer. RED Turnipseed is always in control.
Apple pays RED Turnipseed 99 cents every time he listens to a song.
RED Turnipseed can sneeze with his eyes open.
RED Turnipseed can eat just one Lay's potato chip.
RED Turnipseed is suing Myspace for taking the name of what he calls everything around you.
RED Turnipseed destroyed the periodic table, because he only recognizes the element of surprise.
RED Turnipseed can kill two stones with one bird.

Posted by seriously (anonymous) on October 7, 2009 at 4:48 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Cats5 according to you the Advertiser has printed a false story. You care to elaborate because someone is wrong.

Posted by imaplumber (anonymous) on October 7, 2009 at 4:48 p.m. (Suggest removal)

If Tim Mims has never been arrested, someone needs to call Tim Mims and let him know. According to this story, he thinks he has.

Posted by seriously (anonymous) on October 7, 2009 at 5:10 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Would the real Tim Mims please stand up? I think we're going to have a problem here!

Posted by ms_rebel (anonymous) on October 7, 2009 at 5:25 p.m. (Suggest removal)

sounds like there might be a little jealousy there plumber and seriously. do you know something the rest of us don't and do you have ever have anything nice to say. Mr Tim Mims is a good man, and I for one would stand by his side anytime.

Posted by dstrength (anonymous) on October 7, 2009 at 5:55 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I have known Tim Mims for many years and I will say there is definitely more to this story. Tim is always willing to help anyone he can and is definitely not the kind to want to fight. I think if you haters will wait you will see the true story will come out in court.

Posted by seriously (anonymous) on October 7, 2009 at 6:06 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Jealousy? Where did that come from?

I have not questioned or doubted Tim's caracter. I have not read on here where anyone has. It is obvious that there are a few "followers" that worship the ground Tim walks on. If you so choose that is fine. "Good" people make mistakes too. Cats5 called Tim and the Advertiser liars, I just asked for an explanation.

Posted by nanny444 (anonymous) on October 7, 2009 at 6:57 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Well, Tim Mims, nor the police officers involved should be shown any favoritism for the positions they hold. Nobody should be above the law.

I sincerely hope that Mims is right when he says this is not over.

I would like to see this case heard by an impartial Judge and Jury in a neutral county.

Let the witnesses from both sides testify and I have a feeling the truth will be found somewhere buried in the middle of this mess.

If Tim Mims is found guilty, he should be given the appropriate fines and punishment.

If Tim Mims is found innocent , the Police officers should be dealt with in any ways that will bring justice, whether it be through the law or through lawsuits.

At any rate , I hope this case is settled in a manner that justice will prevail.

Posted by cats5 (anonymous) on October 7, 2009 at 7 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Mr. Plumber or whoever you are,

I see that you have made quite a few comments. Yes he was arrested Fri. night. I do not call peoples liars. I hope that you and your family never have to deal with anything like this. God Bless you and yours.

Posted by seriously (anonymous) on October 7, 2009 at 7:31 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Cats5 now you have really confused me. Which is it? Did he or did he not get arrested? You said both.

Posted by dstrength (anonymous) on October 8, 2009 at 6:51 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Earlier when she said he had never been arrested I believe she was meaning Tim had never been arrested previous to this event.

Posted by imaplumber (anonymous) on October 8, 2009 at 7:48 a.m. (Suggest removal)

What would I be jealous of?
That I don't have a current set of fingerprints on file with the Marengo County Sheriff's Office?

Posted by MHSALUM (anonymous) on October 9, 2009 at 12:14 p.m. (Suggest removal)

FYI...Just got word that Maplesville High School Athletics has been cleared of all charges and allegations filed with the AHSAA by Linden!

Posted by dee (anonymous) on October 9, 2009 at 3:23 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I don't know anything about this particular situation-wasn't there, but "300+ hundred people hollering at official"?
I do know this- As a public school employee for 30 years, I saw parents climb a fence at a baseball game and attack the other team and officials.I saw parents throw items at judges at beauty pagent judges.I saw a parent choke a teacher who was directing a play in the middle of the production. I saw a parent use an umbrella to hit a teacher who was directing traffic at graduation ceremony. I saw a mob of parents tear down a fence at a football game. Who was penalized in everyone of these incidents? THE STUDENTS. Who was embarrassed ? THE STUDENTS.
300+ people hollering at officials??People arrested? Police waving guns? What are we adults thinking ? It is a kid's competition for heaven's sake!
The kids cussing probably learned those words from some adult!!

Posted by e4e5Nf3 (anonymous) on October 9, 2009 at 3:44 p.m. (Suggest removal)

No "charges or allegations" were filed by Linden against Maplesville with the AHSAA. Next lie...

Posted by TellItLikeItIs (anonymous) on October 10, 2009 at 12:51 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Below is a comment I posted with The Demopolis Times and would like to also post it here. It is connected to two stories, one entitled "Coaches, Players Showed Class and Restraint" which ran in the Demopolis paper sometime last week and one entitled "Chilton County Commissioner Arrested at Linden Ballgame" which also ran in that paper and is the same as the story above. Remember this comment is directed to the Demopolis Times and not to your paper. Thanks for allowing me to post it here........
As Tim states in this story, he hopes the people of Chilton County will watch as this story unfolds. Personally, this story has actually become more interesting for me as I have had posts removed by Jason Cannon from the story entitled "Coaches, Players, Showed Class & Restraint" which was written about the same ballgame (fact). I have even had my ability to post anything further to that story removed.(fact) Another poster has been threatened that their posts might be removed in the future if what they say is not found to be accurate in Jason's eyes. (fact) Maybe the caption that we click entitled OPINION should be changed to FACT and maybe the POST A COMMENT caption should be renamed POST A FACT, or, you could change MORE VIEWPOINTS to read MORE FACTS, Jason.
The comment, "Remember this all started with a Maplesville fan (Tim Mims)"doing the right thing" by telling a police officer who he can and cannot arrest" was not censored for accuracy.
The comment, "the way they were taunting the crowd, (with no penalty) cheap shot hits after the play was over (with no penalty) Cheering and the band playing while we had a player down" was not not censored for accuracy.
The comment, " Not to mention the filthy language & obscene gestures coming from the football players as their bus was leaving the field" was not censored for accuracy.
I could go on & on.
I guess your comments, Jason, that include "everyone's entitled to an opinion" and "you can even post the allegations in this forum" (which I always thought meant- a designated space for public expressions) means everyone but me. Oh wait a minute, your comment from Oct. 8th at 4.28pm was also removed. Hummmm! Was it reviewed for accurate facts and found not to meet your own criteria?
All the above referenced comments can remain but my comment, "MHS received a letter today, Oct. 9th, 2009 from the AHSAA. After watching the video and reading statements from men on the field, it was determined that the allegations brought against them by Linden warranted no action by the AHSAA " had to be removed...twice. Go ahead an remove this entire comment also Jason and please remove my registration. I have no desire to read anything else in your newspaper or comment on it.

Posted by FlowerChild (anonymous) on October 12, 2009 at 8:45 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I leave Maplesville for just a couple of decades and look what happens....Mrs. Mims,you can be assured that those of us who know Tim will never question his character simply because a couple of thugs assaulted him.Most of us also understand that we can be arrested for simply glancing at the nervous Nellies we have enforcing the law now days.Thank God they weren't using tasers.Why were they not electrocuting everyone if everything was so out of hand?

Posted by mhsgrad09 (anonymous) on October 12, 2009 at 10:02 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Ok imaplumber.. you have gone to far with me. I am proud to say that I'm Tim Mims' daughter and I would appreciate it if you would stop saying things about my father. you dont know him like I do or everyone that knows him. He is a honest man and he cares for chilton county or why else he would be county commissioner? It hurts my feelings that you would say bad things about my father. I love my dad with all my heart and what happened to him was awful. I'm glad I wasn't there when all of this happened to him because I would have went crazy. So I would appreciate it if you would stop commenting about my father when you don't know who he really is. Thank you everyone for the prayers and standing up for my father during this time!

Posted by e4e5Nf3 (anonymous) on October 12, 2009 at 10:17 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Tellalielikeitis, you can post that comment regarding Linden bringing allegations to the AHSAA anywhere you want to, but it is still a lie. Linden never filed charges against Maplesville with the AHSAA. The AHSAA has said so and Linden has said so. Posting opinions is one thing; posting lies to stir things up is another. Maybe that's why your comments were removed...??? Ya think?

Posted by newjourney27 (anonymous) on October 13, 2009 at 5:55 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Ok let me just say I'm a Maplesville native. Graduated from MHS and I totally/completely agree with imaplumber. He hasn't said anything wrong and honestly alot of you sound really crazy. Alot of you make it seem like because it was "Tim" he shouldn't have gotten arrested and if he and the other guy wouldn't have gotten arrested, Maplesville would have won the game. Now reading that last line sounds really ridiculous doesn't it. That's how alot of you guys sound. No if he was asked by authorities to sit down, then that's just what he should've done. That's what the police are there for. When one person decides to take matters into their own hands and "do what's right" then the next guy will do the same and so forth and so on. Then once you have several people taking matters into their own hands and "doing what they think is right" guess who you will be calling? Exactly, the cops. I know Tim and I do respect what he has done for the city of Maplesville as well as the county but the law is the law and right is right. No one is exempt regardless of how much power you have. As far as the game, I hear the same story or comment time after time. Just give credit where credit is due. I'm hearing "they cheated or we didn't get calls in our favor". Now I'm hearing that the players were rude and unsportsmanlike by flipping everyone off. Take away the so called bad behavior, we're they still a good football team? I'm a former athlete and I know coaches encourage players to get in the heads of their opponents. It INTIMIDATES them. Do you think maybe that's why they lost. If so, it's going to take a lot more than Pride, Honor and Tradition to win games. The only thing the kids experienced was a small piece of the real world. Come on Maplesvillians! We gotta do better! It's a loss! Pick yourself up by the bootstrap, dust yourselves off and prepare for the next game. You lingering on this loss is only going to drag into the next game! And the fact that 400 people say Tim was doing "the right thing" doesn't actually mean he was.

Posted by imaplumber (anonymous) on October 13, 2009 at 10:16 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Help me, mhsgrad09.
I can't find where I said one thing bad about Tim Mims.

I really don't know him well enough to like him or dislike him, so that's pretty much moot.

All I've said (if you go back and re-read the comments) is two things:
1. that if Mr. Mims really hasn't done anything, then he wouldn't have been arrested in the first place.
I've never seen a cop pick a guy at random and haul him off to jail, muchless pick two people at random and haul them both off to jail.

If Tim thought he was being treated unfairly, he moreso than anybody else should know how to handle that. He should know better than to pull that "I was doing what I thought was right" card and hope to get a free pass.

2. If you think Linden was unsportsmanlike, they were less unsportsmanlike than Maplesville.

And man, I'm sure glad newjourney27 showed up.

Posted by mhsgrad09 (anonymous) on October 21, 2009 at 10:46 a.m. (Suggest removal)

ok imaplumber, you were not there when things happened and neither was I, but the cops there (from what I heard) was just trying to find someone to put in jail and of course, they picked my father and another man from Maplesville and they didn't do anything wrong. I know the whole situation sounds crazy, but it happened. And newjourney27, I don't know what to say about the game because I wasn't there. He was not asked to sit down because he was helping one of his friends and then the cops want to act all big and bad by hurting my father. If this was your father in this type of situation, you would be probably feeling the same way like I am now as in standing up for your father! And the majority of the people on here are not crazy, they are just standing up for a man that does the right thing and they know him very well.