Posted by chiltoncopeach (anonymous) on November 19, 2009 at 10:45 p.m.

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Posted by jeralyn4313 (anonymous) on November 20, 2009 at 6:24 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Way to go...clean up the streets...now get the informants too...we (the decent people) know who they are and that they are getting away with criminal crimes! They are dangerous!! STOP feeding them the drugs for information and lock the sorry scum up!! Let's get ALL the drug sellers and users off the streets so that this generation of kids can grow up to be a productive society!! STOP the heartache these durgs are causing!

Posted by juswannabeheard (anonymous) on November 20, 2009 at 7:11 a.m. (Suggest removal)

WTG! one down......a billion to go.

I have to give it to our boys. They are doing a really good job, and it isn't even election year!

Posted by davyhay (anonymous) on November 20, 2009 at 7:20 a.m. (Suggest removal)

You think if you got every single drug dealer off the streets that there would be no drug abuse in Clanton, or anywhere else? Where there is such an insatiable maker, as there is for drugs, the demand will be met by whatever means necessary. You can’t defeat an epidemic of this sort through prohibition—just look how poorly that worked out with alcohol. In a very real way, prohibition makes worse the condition it was intended to remedy.

The one thing that I am curious about here is the connection between the earlier arrest and this one. The story mentions that this arrest followed a purchase of drugs from an “undercover officer.” I am wondering if this officer was actually the individual arrested earlier—used as bait to sell to one of his friends.

Posted by davyhay (anonymous) on November 20, 2009 at 7:22 a.m. (Suggest removal)

But please don't take my previous post as saying that we don't need to arrest drug dealers. given our current system, this is all we must do.

Posted by November162000 (anonymous) on November 20, 2009 at 8:01 a.m. (Suggest removal)

jeralyn4313: " ...we (the decent people) know who they are and that they are getting away with criminal crimes!" I'm a fairly decent person and I don't know who these informants are. Why don't you go ahead and fill us in? Give us details about the drugs that the police have been "feeding" them. And, how is it that you seem to know so much about drug dealing? If you're that close to it, maybe you need to make some changes? Come on, fill us in, maybe YOU can help clean up Clanton.

Posted by PhilBurnette (anonymous) on November 20, 2009 at 8:01 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Dang it Graves! These people know we're friends, quit telling our age!

Seriously though, glad to see our guys in uniform keeping up the fight. It can be daunting and at times completely overwhelming but keep up the good work guys. Some of us do know a bit about what you go through for far too little in return. Let me say thank you for making the sacrifices.

Posted by alive (anonymous) on November 20, 2009 at 8:07 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Yes, they arrested him but from what you all have been telling me it sounds like they will just release him if he is willing to become an informant. Also, from what I've heard here, he will be allowed to do as he wants legal or not as long as he tells on others!

Steve, How do you know it was meth? By the way I sang along as I read your post but I have no ability to harmonize! Can't even carry a tune except in my head. I loved that "ditty".

Posted by jkelley (anonymous) on November 20, 2009 at 8:24 a.m. (Suggest removal)

hey alive I was actually singing also, and getting the mental picture of the commcercial with everyone standing there with the coke in hand and did they not have candles also?

Posted by kittycreek (anonymous) on November 20, 2009 at 8:52 a.m. (Suggest removal)

So the dealer gets a lighter sentence by entrapping one of his buyers?

Posted by alive (anonymous) on November 20, 2009 at 9:33 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Kitty, I think it's usually the other way around. but it could go either way I guess. A middle man, who sells and is usually also a user, gets caught and tells the police who else is selling or buying. I know the idea is that they eventually get to the really big traffickers. I do know that they get a lighter sentance if they will cooperate by talking. The guy who broke in our house and robbed us was addicted to crack. We got lucky because we had the serial numbers to some of our stuff and when they just happened to pull him over for a some kind of violation they looked in his trunk and our small safe was in his trunk. the police brought it to us to see. He then told them where he had sold our stuff for drugs (a crack house in Alabaster) and the police raided the place. Again having serial numbers was important because a few of our items were identified in the house and so they were able to prosecute them all on multiple charges!

Of course by the time it was over our insurance had already paid and we didn't get or really want any of the stuff they had touched back. We didn't get full value from the insurance company either but at least we got something.

The guy went to jail for 7 years. I was a little worried when he got out. I have no idea where he is now. But I doubt he even remembers which houses he robbed...there were so many. I don't know what the owners of the crack house got.

The police were really good to us throughout the whole ordeal. We are not rich and do not live in a big house but they treated us very respectfully and were very helpful. The experience caused me to think highly of our Chilton county police. It scares me when I hear all the bad stuff people say about them.

Posted by halford (anonymous) on November 20, 2009 at 10:12 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I am glad the police are doing their jobs to keep the community of Clanton safe by cracking down on one criminal at a time.. The fact that he fled the scene and led the police on a chase, resulting in a collision with a police car, does not look well in his favor in the hopes of proving his innocence at a later time. Speaking for only myself, I am SICK AND TIRED of working hard every day to earn a respectable living while some people think they can sit at home and sell drugs to make themselves a better living than those of us who ACTUALLY WORK for our income. That's just my opinion, but I am sure there are MANY other tax-payers out there who are exhausted with working every day to support this type of behavior. If the guy had been at work at 10 am and not selling drugs, perhaps he wouldn't be in this predicament.

Posted by sexy_10 (anonymous) on November 20, 2009 at 1:45 p.m. (Suggest removal)

ok, seriously Mr. Graves your starting to get on my nerves. What does the school systems have to do with this drug bust? Why do you keep having too bring that up? Seems you have way too much time on your hands. Why dont you "grow up" since you seem too keep saying everyone else should. And as far as these druggies running around here, it'll take time too make this place better because of the narcotics that has actually made it over here, as in meth its messing up people everyday. Yes, the society these days are full of drugs & alcohol and the younger kids most deff need a better society but personally i think our cops are doing all they possibly can trying to get these sellers off the streets.

Posted by southernpride (anonymous) on November 20, 2009 at 2:10 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Sexy,

I agree the cops are doing all they can. However, it is a neverending and unwinnable war. Changes would have to be made that most are not willing to make in order to stop drugs.

Why get mad at kw? The shools do need attention and the board of ed seems to be useless. True it has nothing to do with this story but it is still a concern to most.

At any rate, almost everyone on here gets sidetracked with domments on other stories on here other than the one the story in the paper is about.

Posted by halford (anonymous) on November 20, 2009 at 3:04 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I hope everyone has a great weekend. I am going to have a wonderful weekend for sure!

Posted by KatherineReece (anonymous) on November 20, 2009 at 6:24 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I'm just glad I wasn't on Yellowleaf Road when this happened ... I'm up and down that road all the time.

Posted by ATC1962 (anonymous) on November 21, 2009 at 1:44 a.m. (Suggest removal)

In reading the article above, it states earlier on the same morning the police had arrested an un-named seller. When this happens, the police did not need an informant to arrest the second one. All that was more than likely necessary was to monitor the cell phone of the first person arrested. They had an instant informant with a cell phone. Also they knew what he was selling. Object, answer the phone and simply agree to meet next in line. Could very well be the reason why they did not name the first person. Remember a few years back where the police department set up shop in a house? They just sat there and waited on the next one in line to stop by the house. Reading the paper lately has identified how popular the parking lot has become for activity other than loading groceries in a vehicle.

Posted by sbll58 (anonymous) on November 21, 2009 at 7:07 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Graves ,im surprised you or anyone else on this post dosen`t rememeber this person.Afew years ago he made front page news with another person for killing a drug dealer in jemison while making his 4th or 5th purchase of drugs of the night from the same one he and the other boy killed.He and the other were sent to prison and as such is the case,he reverted back to his drug usage and wham,bamm,thank you mam,hes been caught again,i wonder if he`ll get more than 5 years this time,we can only hope.

Posted by trouble1369 (anonymous) on November 21, 2009 at 11:17 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Yeah that other boy is now serving 30 years for the crime that he wasn't even sure that he committed. I know this for a fact because he is one of my family members. They had gone there because this young man needed a "fix" and the other boy doesn’t even remember the trip because he was on pain medicine for a wreck he was in a month earlier. He went on what this young man told him happened. This young man turned him at the first chance he got. Matt only got a slap on the wrist for that crime. He was also on probation so maybe he get more time this time.

Posted by jsfpilot2b (anonymous) on November 22, 2009 at 8:38 a.m. (Suggest removal)

There has to be an arrest made every once in a while or else the billions of dollars spent every year in the U.S. in this drug war would not be justified. Without the drug war how many unemployed officers would there be in the U.S.??? How would they pay for their new cars??? Can you say"cash cow"? I don't want drugs on our streets either. But there must be a better way....

Posted by wlpowell63 (anonymous) on November 22, 2009 at 12:12 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Ok, will we hear the more of this story? Ok CA, lets find out what they will get and what punishment, jail or prison time these thugs will get down the road. In journalisum like on TV, newspapers, and internet they always give the outcome of what goes on. People needs to know, or else someone, or somebody would say, "Hey I bet you the judge set them free". Because 60% of the people in the county are very doutful about how the justice system really is. Want to make the people feel real good? Give the outcome and they will know that the county is a great place to live.

But sorry to say, it will never happen...

Posted by sbll58 (anonymous) on November 23, 2009 at 6:21 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I beleive the Judge was John Bush if memory servers me right.Not being and attorney nor scholor of law,only a lay person who reads and has followed news articles and stories on television on similar type cases ,i was under the impression that if a life is taken while commiting a crime then all parties are as guilty of the death as if they pulled the trigger.Having said that , i dont see how there could have been a 30 year sentence given to one and a 5 year given to the other,but this is not the first time this has happened with regard to someone being killed and charged the same but convicted of lesser charges,just look at the recent decision of the shooting and death of a west end resident.The facts as perceived by the judge and jury are the only opinions that really seem to matter.As for trouble 1369,not knowing what you were doing because you were so messed up on pain meds is no more a defense for not remembering doing something is like saying i dont remember hitting the other car and killing that family because i was drunk.I think that this kind of reasoning is part of our problem as a society,we take no responsibility for our actions and dont allow our children to pay for the mistakes they make.I my day and in our home the motto was ,if you make your bed hard ,you have to lay in it.And if you lay with dogs you get up with fleas.My how times have changed.

Posted by SECorBust (anonymous) on November 23, 2009 at 7:43 a.m. (Suggest removal)

31 years old, huh? I probably went to shchool with this guy too. Only I probably knew him as Pookey or something like that.

Posted by halford (anonymous) on November 23, 2009 at 10:29 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I am very curious to see how he will be punished for this crime, especially given his previous infraction and the severity.