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Standoff ends peacefully
Published Thursday, June 18, 2009
Law enforcements officials subdued a 45-year-old Verbena man Thursday after a standoff that lasted more than an hour.
Dale Allen Gulledge reportedly was making threats to neighbors while naked until Sheriff’s Deputies responded to the residence in the 200 block of County Road 508 in Verbena at about 10:45 a.m.
The white male then threatened the officers. Neighbors advised deputies that Gulledge had discharged a firearm at the residence and threatened suicide on previous nights, so a perimeter was established around the residence while the Tactical Unit and crisis negotiators were dispatched.
Gulledge threw numerous items, including three firearms, onto the front yard and asked officers to shoot him, saying, “It’s a good day to die.”
Gulledge eventually fled from the back of the residence and was taken into custody without injury.
A Probate Court Order was obtained to transport Gulledge to the VA Hospital in Tuscaloosa for treatment.
“This would appear to be an attempt to commit ‘suicide by cop,’ given the statements Mr. Gulledge made as well as walking out in front of armed deputies carrying firearms.” Said Shane Mayfield, an investigator with the Sheriff’s Department. “However, everyone relied on their training and used the proper discretion to bring a dangerous situation to a peaceful resolution.”
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Posted by 2byz (anonymous) on June 19, 2009 at 12:23 a.m.
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Posted by travlr423 (anonymous) on June 19, 2009 at 7:57 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Nimrod, its kinda like kw said this guy has had these mental issues all his life. And no he should not own a firearm of any nature and no one living in the same home should be allowed to have a firearm at the home, however you can not blame the system for someone acquiring a firearm from a private sale. and if it were not a firearm it would have been another weapon of choice. one time it was a ball bat/stick. if i choose to kill someone whether im sane or insane at the time, i can kill someone with a knife, pipe or gun just as easily especially if i catch them off guard. murder is not the result of any weapon it is a state of mind.
and while you may seize every firearm in america you cannot control ones state of mind nor predict it even in the case of one with a chemical imbalance like this individual. when they dont take their medicine their a time bomb.
Posted by Care4GodsEarth (anonymous) on June 19, 2009 at 8:11 a.m. (Suggest removal)
A chemical imbalance is treatable, and many folks who would have been "locked up forever" on the public's dime are working and capable citizens. But it requires diligence and oversight to ensure that medical care continues to work for the individual.
Treatment at a VA hospital is rightly earned, it's not "free", and it is the responsibility of all Americans to take care of those who are willing to give the ultimate sacrifice for us.
Posted by juswannabeheard (anonymous) on June 19, 2009 at 8:43 a.m. (Suggest removal)
no one is ever really out of society for good. They may become another drain on society by being an additional cost in prison, mental health facility, or every government help program they can find, but they aren't really out of society.
As for the system and how good it worked in this situation... I would say that it worked to capacity. A person has civil liberties and rights. In most cases it is up to the individual or the family of individuals to locate and obtain assistance with any issues, mental or otherwise. This man is going to have to admit that he has a problem and what his triggers are before he can be helped. He is also going to have to want to change before it will actually do any good.
As family and friends it falls to us to help any person realize when they need help. As a community we should be supportive of this man and his family.
Posted by travlr423 (anonymous) on June 19, 2009 at 9:03 a.m. (Suggest removal)
2byz, this guy does not suffer from some post military stress syndrome, he has a chemical imbalance he shares an unfortunate dissociation from reality that hundreds of thousands of other people also suffer from at some degree. And i dont think we can blame the system for mental disorders unless it was a result of some type of drug medication given to him as a child or while the mother was expecting. And I'm really not sure where heart disease, diabetes or alcohol abuse fits into this subject, and even though these types of diseases are some what passed through our gene factor, they are most often able to be controlled through our personal choice in lifestyle. And in my opinion if someone serves in the military and returns home with a physical or mental impairment as a direct result of his/her service to our country, yes they should receive the best medical care our tax dollars can buy. there are many middle aged vets now experiencing lung/breathing and skin problems and these symptoms are being passed on to their young children and there are young soldiers who have returned home from Iraq war blown apart, disfigured that cant get the medical help they are entitled to and you want to talk about stress disorders. However mental disorders such as bipolar disorder, skits are much more common than many people may know and results in many suicides and other death related issues, but there are many foundations that you can contribute to in helping develop a cure or more successful treatment for the many people who are suffering with this disease. And just to name one that i like personally is www.seancostello.com in honor of a very young blues musician/singer/songwriter from Atlanta GA. who died one day before his 29th birthday in April of 2008. this disease affects people from all walks of life. so if you know someone who likes good blues music the proceeds from sean's album sales go to this purpose. And who knows you maybe saving someone you love. check it out.
Posted by dixierider42 (anonymous) on June 19, 2009 at 9:59 a.m. (Suggest removal)
I went to school with Dale and all 12 years he was not one to get in trouble, act out or anything crazy. I know then he never was a threat, I'm sorry to see this happening to him now. I hope things get much better for him.
Posted by fshrman (anonymous) on June 19, 2009 at 10:41 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Love reading the Advertiser on-line since I am not in town anymore. I finally figured out who kwsrgraves reminds me of. Tim Wilson has a character named Uncle BS that no matter the story he was involved or had experience. Not doubting kwsrgraves was local law and Navy (Thank you sir for your service) but I swear he has a personal story for every article. Hey NASA is planning another moon mission..your suit still fit?
Posted by 2byz (anonymous) on June 19, 2009 at 10:56 a.m. (Suggest removal)
You DO NOT have to tell me what he suffers from as I know what it is. I stated that the stress from the military can cause the imbalance to worsen! I did not say that the system had failed in this case. If you do not realize where a chemical imbalance fits in with heart disease, DM, drug & alcohol addiction then you really do not need to be giving any additional advise. They are ALL diseases that we are born to have or not to have! I don't know of any one person with any of these diseases mentioned that ask for them, do you? Dale is not a drug addict. He has a disease that his body doesn't give the correct amount of chemicals to allow his body to function as it should! It's not that he needs to admit anything, he's aware of that. Sometimes, for different reasons, our body will generate the WRONG amounts of certian chemichals we need to operate. The over heating of our bodies will eleminate too much of some, thus causing AN IMBALANCE! Don't you think its been pretty hot outside for the past few days? I have SEEN and worked with persons that have come back from serving, yes I have seen the destruction it causes physically! We owe these people! I am not minimizing the horror that mental disease can cause to society, but we are not in the dark ages where "Bleeding" or any of the other horrible procedures used to "drain the demmons" out of a person exsist. We should not discard them, this won't help! I'm not saying that hospitalization is not warrnted, but locked out from society forever?
Posted by bama1870 (anonymous) on June 19, 2009 at 1:09 p.m. (Suggest removal)
fshrman, Post of the month....... Hilarious
Posted by travlr423 (anonymous) on June 19, 2009 at 1:41 p.m. (Suggest removal)
2byz, i would like to ask you since you seem to know more about what triggers these events of behavior change in people and from whence they originated. do you personally deal with depression, extreme highs that drop like a rocket just from having some negative thought cross your mind. do you have the extreme lows that offer no purpose or reason for anything, hopelessness or, can you be in a crowd of people but still feel as though your all alone.Do you wish people could understand what you feel inside when you dont understand your self. And if you answered YES to any of these questions, well congratulations to you, you have been selected as one in a few million Americans who can give advise from personal knowledge. But if your answer is NO, well you are more than blessed.
And by the way we are not born with all these diseases although as i stated in an earlier comment while it may be present in our genetic makeup most often times our choice of lifestyle and personal experiences cause them to manifest.
Posted by 2byz (anonymous) on June 19, 2009 at 2:28 p.m. (Suggest removal)
No, I do not deal with MOST of these issues,not personally. I do work with persons dealing with this! And I assure you, I KNOW I'm blessed! There alot of times I don't understand WHY I feel the way I do, but I believe that God does know & therefore I am reassured that SOMEONE does understand! Again, we are born with the predispositions to have these diseases, it is in our genes! I again disagree with your opinon that our lifestyles most often cause the manifestation! Do you know anyone that had a child BORN with DM, or hypertension, heart disease, cancer? Well I've seen many! Oh well, do you think that SMALL baby chose to do that, I think not! Our lifestyles do play a part in how we handle things we have NO ability to change. We can chooose to take treatment or not, that will cause the problem to get bigger or MAYBE get better! How many CHILDREN do you know that have died from cancer, even heart disease? Shall I begin to count the ones that have passed threw my life? I promise you it is something that some people are born with and has NOTHING to do with their lifestyle! And if you think that we are not born with depression and other chemical imbalances, again you're wrong. Visit a pysch unit and see how many children are there, that YOU don't know about! Children do have depression issues. Most people do not see or understand this! Most people do not know how to treat them, they pass them off as bad children or stupid parenting. Wow! Please I ask that you, along with alot of others, open your minds to see that these ARE problems people are born with. Not that they choose to live this way!
Posted by djgul32 (anonymous) on June 19, 2009 at 3:34 p.m. (Suggest removal)
I am brother to Mr. Gulledge, I have seizures, & my Brother is just one example what our goverment isn't doing for our military!!
Since his discharge in 1985 from the navy, he has always done things of this sort, but he hasn't always been violent!
This is the first time I known that he has been violent, furthermore, we was raised around guns, had guns all our life, and to answer Mr. Nimrod, 2 of the guns in his possession was 2 that we grew up with! Get your facts straight before you go on one of your rants!
Posted by bama1870 (anonymous) on June 19, 2009 at 3:44 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Well, There you have it, This story has been analyzed to death today by the local chapter of thr Dr.Phil Show ,and I can't imagine anybody here knows the whole story.
djgul32, I hope your brother gets the treatment he needs. Good luck.....
Posted by 2byz (anonymous) on June 19, 2009 at 4:25 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Well, there are some that do know more than others about what did happen. Those that continue to believe that people CHOOSE to have these "lifestyle" diseases need to open thier minds to see that is why we cannot get any farther in getting the correct help for people!
Posted by kittycreek (anonymous) on June 19, 2009 at 4:51 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Too many people place themselves in the big Judgement chair and point their little fingers of criticism - about things they have no experience with, or knowlege of.
Posted by jdaddy (anonymous) on June 19, 2009 at 8:54 p.m. (Suggest removal)
I have known Dale for years. I have talked to him several times over the past few months and he told me of several things in his life that have been causing him major stress. I have never known Dale to act in a manner such as this. Dale, you are in our prayers and we hope that you get the help you need!
Posted by November162000 (anonymous) on June 19, 2009 at 9 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Hopefully Mr. Gulledge can get the help that he needs. I thank him for his service in the Navy.
Posted by kdavis (anonymous) on June 20, 2009 at 10:04 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Steve--Just to let you know. No the APC was not used. After being in office for two years and it never was used in those two years. I decided it was not worth the upkeep. It was returned to the 10-33 program appox. 6 months ago.
Posted by jdaddy (anonymous) on June 23, 2009 at 8:37 p.m.
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