Posted by blackwater (anonymous) on July 26, 2009 at 8:03 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Stephen, nobody ever comments on your sports stories. Everybody is trying to APPEAR intelligent by offering an earthshattering opinion on the racism and child-molester stories. Well I'm going to jump out there. Auburn is a JOKE! ALWAYS HAVE BEEN, ALWAYS WILL BE. They have a coordinator from Tulsa that found a way to squeeze nearly 50 pts. a game out of a nobody team. Who does Tulsa ever play? Are we suppose to be impressed with that stat Auburn? GET REAL! Cheeze-it: “I don’t have to go out and try to gather attention for myself" Ok. then why go parading around in a limo during recruiting season? It's a gimmick designed to gather attention because YOU are a JOKE!
COLEMAN: “It’s all going to be a blessing when we start Sept. 5" No Coleman, it's going to be a nightmare buddy. You are are going to wish you had played anywhere else FOR anybody else. “The most important thing we lost [last year] is swagger, and I think we have it back" Oh, you did? How's that? You got swagger now because you pounded on the scout team!? Just go ahead and get the crying over with now because its going to happen! I'm sure we will hear the gammit of excuses about new coach, new system blah, blah, blah. Get ready to be a laughing stock AGAIN Auburn,

Posted by REK1138 (anonymous) on July 26, 2009 at 8:48 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Spoken like a true Alabama fan, born and raised in the trailer park, functioning under the on-going delusion that the rest of the country fears Crimson Tide football because you had a great coach with a funny hat and think you won 20 national championships. Your program was in such pathetic shape three years ago that your downtrodden athletic director didn't fly, didn't walk, but CRAWLED to Nick Saban, crimson colored checkbook in hand, and begged, BEGGED Nick Saban to come and coach at a program that any coach NOT just in it for the money wouldn't touch with a ten foot pole. So yeah, Mal drops trou, bends over, and says give it to me good Nicky, we need you to save Bammer football. And the amazing thing, it actually worked. Saban might not bring a BCS championship to Bama before he's drawn away by the smell of money but he's brought a sense of legitimacy back to a program that teetered on the edge of insignificance, despite the 10 or 20 or 65 national championships you think you have. And snap, just like that, like a magic wand being waved or a hypnotist snapping his fingers the trailer trash that comprises a significant percentage of the Crimson Nation and their prophet Paul Finebaum have washed away six long years of getting their butts handed to them by Auburn and everyone else in the league like it never happened. It must be nice to be an ignorant Alabama fan. The rest of the college football fans in this nation don't have that luxury.

Posted by chiltontransplant (anonymous) on July 26, 2009 at 9:33 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Rek......Please don't try and quiet the tirades of bama fans like blackwater - The more he talks the more college football fans realize the vast multitudes of bama's sidewalk alumni. But I do have to ask; if Auburn has always been a joke - What did that make bama for 6 straight years........The butt of the joke? All hail to little nicky!!!!!!

Posted by PrAaHe (anonymous) on July 26, 2009 at 10:58 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Saban won't bring Alabama a national title before bolting to Notre Dame. He caught lightning in a bottle last year with an extremely talented team and STILL couldnt get the job done. Oh wait..that was all the fans' fault, my bad.

Posted by gkeys (anonymous) on July 26, 2009 at 11:14 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Savior, I mean Saban won’t get anywhere in the SEC as long as Meyer is at Florida!

Posted by blackwater (anonymous) on July 27, 2009 at 6:35 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I thought I might get some response. You aubbies keep hangin' on to the streak because you will never do anything better than that. BTW I wasn't raised in a trailer park, but I don't think there is anything wrong with it either. You can't choose your parents. And it's 12 National championships REK. Just picture a pasture near the AU campus with 1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8-9-10-11-12 COWS! YEA! I knew you could count correctly if you had the right visual aid. I'm glad Saban is here, but I wouldn't hate him if he left. There was Alabama football greatness before Nick Saban, and there will be Alabama football greatness after he leaves; whenever that is. Keep diggin' AU. Maybe you will be able to establish some sort of legacy one day. For now you have to cling to the disputed championship in the 1950's and a winning streak in the rival game. WOW! BFD! Just know that you have always been and will always be second tier. The story was written long ago, and you can't change it. Don't get your feelings hurt too bad. I'm just having a little fun. I'm ready for the season, the friends, the food, and the good times.

Posted by PrAaHe (anonymous) on July 27, 2009 at 7:23 a.m. (Suggest removal)

The streak? You bammers dont hang onto the 9 you got on us in the 70's, or "The Bear", or your 12 Imaginary national championships? And you say you won't be mad when Saban leaves. You will, like the rest of the bammers. He'll be considered the scum of the earth and "that aint how the Bear woulda done it.."

Posted by pantherprd (anonymous) on July 27, 2009 at 7:31 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Wow blackwater. You could do no better job of proving what the typical ignorant sidewalk alumni UA fan is. Have you ever even seen the campus on anything other than a football Saturday? For that manner, have you even darkened the door of a college campus? Somehow, I doubt it.

But to your point, yes Alabama has a great tradition. But look at the recent years, ones where Bear was not able to use his unethical recruiting practices, and you will see that Auburn and Bama are pretty close in terms of wins and loses.

Posted by blackwater (anonymous) on July 27, 2009 at 7:33 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I don't claim to speak for the Alabama football community. I'm sharing my thoughts. There are idiot bama fans, and idiot auburn fans. Anybody can put words in my mouth on the internet. I don't have to imagine championships. We got 'em. Do you?

Posted by pantherprd (anonymous) on July 27, 2009 at 8:16 a.m. (Suggest removal)

@blackwater We? What year did you graduate from UA?

Posted by eagle1 (anonymous) on July 27, 2009 at 8:31 a.m. (Suggest removal)

What is a national championship to you, bw? YOU didn't sweat blood and tears to achieve it, so why are YOU raisin' cane about it? You're just ill because the U of A won't let you shake your little pom poms and let them manly male cheerleaders catch you in mid-air anymore. We all heard what happened. But, that's ok, us AUBURN FOLKS are very proud of you since you have just become aware of URANUS since taking those on-line courses to study for your GED.

Posted by blackwater (anonymous) on July 27, 2009 at 8:49 a.m. (Suggest removal)

panther. You don't have to be an alumnus to be a fan, but I do identify with the football team because of the years and dollars I've spent going to the games. I didn't have any problem making it through high school or college; not that its any of your business.
eagle1. Championships mean validation of excellence. Not my excellence, but the team's. See my above statement to panther. You guys talk real BIG with your keyboard. I make some comments about your little football team and you stoop to getting personal. REAL MATURE.

Posted by pantherprd (anonymous) on July 27, 2009 at 10:02 a.m. (Suggest removal)

@blackwater, if you had made your comments in an intellegent manner without stooping to referring to Auburn as a joke, and your words a "laughing stock" you might have an argument. You could have made the same points without being insulting, you could have been "real mature" to begin with, and I would have let it pass.

To bad you spent all your years and money on going to games, otherwise you could have spent a little of it to actually go to Alabama and get a degree. It's a great institution and produces great alumni. If you are a fan, great, you have every right to cheer for who you choose, just don't refer to yourself as "we" when talking to people from another team, who actually went to the school, about a institution you didn't attend.

Posted by REK1138 (anonymous) on July 27, 2009 at 10:19 a.m. (Suggest removal)

All Alabama proved last season was that they were capable of beating teams on down years. From Clemson to Georgia to Tennessee to Auburn, Saban and company proved they could find success as long as their opponents were struggling. When it came time to face a couple of teams having great seasons, Florida and Utah, they folded like day old laundry.

There were certainly some highlights to last season, some things to build on. But you have to hope Nick Saban is not drinking the same kool-aid that fans are drinking, that he doesn't live under the delusion that there weren't some serious concerns last season, like Alabama's inability to play second half football, watching commanding leads shrink and having to pull games that should have been in the sack by the end of the fourth quarter out of the fire before the final buzzer sounded. Saban has always struggled playing second half football, even in his days at Michigan State and LSU. Despite my questioning his character, he seems a smart coach and I doubt he's resting on last year's 11 wins.

Another concern for Bama fans - when Finebaum pulled the Urban Meyer goes to Notre Dame story out of his rectum it got me to thinking - what would motivate a sports reporter, even a scumbag sport reporter, to just fabricate some ridiculous story? Then it hit me - Charlie Weiss's days at ND are certainly numbered and with a tough 09 schedule I'd say it's a better than 50/50 chance he'll be history by season's end. Notre Dame has, arguably, the deepest pockets in the NCAA. When thinking about their short list of coaches, you gotta think Nick Saban is going to be near or at the top. And what is there to keep Nicky in Tuscaloosa? The adoring fans? His promise that he'll never leave Baton Rouge..err Miami...err Tuscaloosa? Thanks to Mal Moore's contract, he can walk out of T-Town with 100% of his deal, no questions asked, and into whatever millions ND is willing to pay him. No more ridiculous expectations from fans echoed by the local media, no more drunken rednecks stealing kisses at the airport, no bricks through windows. If I were a Bama fan, I'd be pulling for the Irish this season...big time!

Posted by bama1870 (anonymous) on July 27, 2009 at 11:31 a.m. (Suggest removal)

blackwater, Looks like you stirred up a hornet's nest in here. As a Bama fan, I'm more concerned about the opener with VT at this point, should be a great game. Coach Beamer will have those kids ready to play.

Just remember, UA will be starting an unproven QB this year, and rebuilding the offensive line. With that said, it's hard to sit here and make predictions.

Posted by eagle1 (anonymous) on July 27, 2009 at 12:36 p.m. (Suggest removal)

That's right, bama! A fool shoots his mouth off. A wise man listens, watches, then shoots his mouth off. You have a lot to learn GRASSHOPPA!

Posted by REK1138 (anonymous) on July 27, 2009 at 2:01 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Alabama's O-line was dominant last year and their ability in the interior isn't just one of the reasons they posted 11 wins but, imho, is THE reason. When their opponents struggled with their own line problems like Georgia's injury prone offensive line or failed to develop any kind of backfield identity (Auburn, Tennessee, Arkansas) Alabama was able to dominate the interior. Truth be told, it was good, old fashioned, football. The problem lies in the fact that a dominant interior isn't enough to compete against a well executed spread offense. Tebow's triple option left huge holes for the Florida backs and Utah's dynamic spread and pass left the Tide linebackers and DB's flatfooted and doe eyed.

Despite recruiting classes gushed over by the media, Alabama needs to stop focusing so much on five star backs and receivers and go for strong, athletic linemen (unless they're going to try their hand at the spread, and I doubt Paul Jr. is gonna let that happen). A consistent contender is going to be able to reload interior positions year in and year out as opposed to rebuilding an O and D line over a couple of seasons like Alabama is having to do.
That said, it seems like a decent year to have to rebuild when most of your opponents are having to do the same. I expect Bama to come out of the gate running (they always have) but the question is, how much will they continue to struggle in November and December?

As for Auburn, after last season, Chizik has a blank slate from which to work this season. He seems genuinely committed to developing the kind of high powered, high scoring offense Auburn has wanted for years. Auburn’s problem has always been its duality – the old schoolers (like Pat Dye) who think the same methods you used in 1984 to win games are going to work today and this definite movement toward the modern, dynamic offenses of the 21st century. Tuberville’s inability to purge the old mentality was an unmitigated disaster and destroyed not one but two promising coaching careers. With an entirely new coaching staff one can only hope that Auburn is now single-minded in its vision of Auburn football which is about dominant performances, not just the W's, and until we get a playoff, that's what it takes to get there.

Posted by eagle1 (anonymous) on July 27, 2009 at 2:10 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Good analogy, REK!

Posted by bama1870 (anonymous) on July 27, 2009 at 3:12 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Like I said, I'm not going to sit here and make predictions. I guess they will just have to play the games and see what happens.

Those coaches know a heck of a lot more than I do.

Posted by REK1138 (anonymous) on July 27, 2009 at 3:29 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Making predictions is all part of the fun Bama. I love this time of year. This cool spell we had, man, it just fired me up. Autumn is truly the most wonderful time of the year - hunting season, college football, cool weather, and sitting around jawing about who's gonna beat who this season. Despite what the sports media says, bragging about last year is only fun until Spring practice starts, then all slates are clean and every team is #1.

Despite being up to here with most Alabama fans (you guys were much more tolerable when you were losing) I'm really not a Bama hater.

Posted by pantherprd (anonymous) on July 27, 2009 at 3:38 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I can't take anything away from what Saban has accomplished. As much as I hate to admit it, he has rebuilt the program, and locked down the state in recruiting. I think Chizik is starting to make some inroads, and get Auburn back on the map. But still I don't think you will ever see the domination of the 70s. The programs will flip back and forth for the foreseeable future.

Posted by REK1138 (anonymous) on July 27, 2009 at 3:50 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Good or bad, the bottom line when it comes to Nick Saban is this. If he were to leave Tuscaloosa tomorrow I would say mission accomplished. When Shula was sent packing two years ago there wasn't a single established coach in the NCAA willing to take a chance at Alabama. Between the probation, the bad publicity (which got even worse when Rodriguez said Yes then No Thanks), and the infamous unrealistic expectations of the fan base Alabama was in a pickle. So, they got on their knees, opened the checkbook, and lured Saban to Tuscaloosa. It was a last ditch effort at bringing some legitimacy back to a program that had seen little in the form of consistent success since Gino Toretto won the Heismann Trophy and Bush sr. was president.

If Saban were to fly out tomorrow for the next good thing, I don't think Alabama would have nearly the problems finding a decent coach that it had in 2006. In fact, I think there are a number of solid, proven coaches out there who would be more than willing to step in and lead Saban's #1 recruiting classes. Some might even do a better job of it.

Posted by pantherprd (anonymous) on July 27, 2009 at 4:27 p.m. (Suggest removal)

@REK1138 - Good Points. Although, it would be interesting to find a good coach that could handle the pressure that comes with the job. I think the thing that Saban has done, that Shula or Francione(sp?) weren't able to do is tell bear's boys to take a back seat and let him do the job.

Posted by bama1870 (anonymous) on July 27, 2009 at 8:06 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I would guess that being in 100% total control of the program was part of the deal for coming to UA, and that's probably a good thing. I can't imagine the "good ole boy's" push him around like they did previous coaches. I also get the feeling he tries to do things the right way. Saban's work ethic is relentless, especially as it relates to recruiting.

As far as Auburn goes, I think the recruiting will get better once people see the direction Coach Chizik wants to take the program.

Speaking of fan expectations, I would like to see Bama win every game, but I have sense enough to know that's not going to happen, that's just delusional. As far as counting the number of Championships at Alabama, they claim 12, that's fine with me. If some folks say less, that's fine with me also. To sit here and dwell on stuff like that is a waste of time to me, and it will not make a bit of difference in preparing for the upcoming season.

One more thing, I have been a Bama fan for 43 years, and no, I did not attend Alabama. I was not aware the criteria for being a fan was to be alumni, that was a new on on me. I'm also a huge Atlanta Braves fan, and I have never been a part of that organization either. Well you see where I'm going with this.....

Anyway, RTR

Posted by blackwater (anonymous) on July 27, 2009 at 9:59 p.m. (Suggest removal)

panther. The statements that I made were about Auburn; not you. Making assumptions about my background and education is uncouth. I chose another University that suited my needs. I didn't base my decision on my favorite football team. I can refer to the collective 'we' if I so chose. I don't have to please anobody on this site with their version of the proper syntax. I just think it's middle schoolish to attack anybody on here with stereotypes especially if you don't even know them. When everyone calms down and stops the personal attacks its alot more fun to read the opinions. People really take themselves too seriously on here. Anything like 'Auburn is a joke' was meant in a kwsgraves-pot-stirrer kind of way, and it looks like it worked. I'm by no means the next self adorned instigator. I really just wanted to comment on one of Stephen's stories.

Posted by pantherprd (anonymous) on July 28, 2009 at 8:59 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Understood blackwater. But you could have made your same comments without your "uncouth" comments. I take the Auburn comments very personally, because Auburn is more than a university to me. It is part of me, it is part of what made me what I am today. Maybe that's something you can't understand, I don't know.

You can have a civil conversation, even poking at the other side without making insulting comments.

@bama1870, you're right you don't have to be an alumni to be a fan. But, when you want to step on a stage and talk about the two schools in terms of we and us, as blackwater did, you better bring a little more that attending a few games and your bama jersey, to talk to a dedicated alumni of the other university.

All I am saying is, brag about your favorite team all you want, but take long look before you start a flame war about the other one.

Posted by AUalum2006 (anonymous) on July 28, 2009 at 10:27 a.m. (Suggest removal)

This article has sparked my interest and since we are on the topic of who graduated from Auburn or Alabama... yes I am an Auburn Alumni...
My thoughts on Auburns football team are this. I believe Chizik has done an exceptional job with who he has hired as coordinators. WE had a lot of issues last year and I think I speak for all Auburn fans when I say, Yes originally when the "spread" was coming to Auburn we were fairly excited about it, especially after we used it agains't Clemson in the Chik-fil-A bowl the season before and won. But, our offense last year was borderline awful. Neither quarterback did very good (in my opinion) and we couldn't produce numbers. Our defense however was great for most of the season, but a defense can only carry an offense for so long before they are tired out which happened often in a lot of our games.
I'm not taking anything away from Alabama, they were very good last year but choked when it came to the two games that mattered (Sec championship and BSC bowl). I see Auburn's defense this year only getting better between the coordinators that were hired and Chizik. Chizik has not proved himself as a head coach yet, but you can't deny that he has a talent for working with a defense. I believe that if Chizik can step aside this year and let Gus Malzhann do his thing, then Auburn will get back to where WE need to be.

Posted by bama1870 (anonymous) on July 28, 2009 at 11:28 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Now don't get too carried away Auburn fans, I was not trying to spark up a slobbering AU lovefest in here.... lol :)

Posted by REK1138 (anonymous) on July 28, 2009 at 12:24 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Blackwater - you first post was nothing but trailer trash bama fan nonsense. "Auburn is a joke, always has been, always will be???" I stand by my assessment, only an ignorant redneck bama fan can legitimize in his or her own mind ignoring the success a rival football has enjoyed for the better part of a decade and call said team a "joke." That joke of a team has consistently posted one of the top five best overall records in all of NCAA Division One football. That joke of a team put five first round draft picks into the NFL three years ago and that joke of a team beat your joke of a team six years straight. That joke of a team, when it went looking for a new coach, had its pick of available coaches because it is and remains one of the top coaching jobs in the country in one of the nations top conferences. I don't recall Auburn having to crawl to Gene Chizik, having to offer millions of dollars, and having to write up the most lopsided contract in coaching history just to get someone to come and coach their football team. Joke of a team indeed.

Posted by blackwater (anonymous) on July 28, 2009 at 5:42 p.m. (Suggest removal)

panther. Get off your high horse. Boo Hoo! i insulted your beloved university. Trash talking is part of the fun this time of year. I guess I forgot this is the United States of the Offended. What a cry baby!
REK. FYI. I have never lived in a mobile home, yet I would never use a term like trailer trash. I know what its like to be poor. I think terms like that are just as wrong as racist slurs. I'm done with this article. Tear it up buzzards. I'm sure you can't stand to not have the last word. I'm on to the next one.

Posted by donnyo (anonymous) on July 29, 2009 at 3:53 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Judging from his comments, I would guess that blackwater is probably vampire under a new name.

Posted by kudzupatch (anonymous) on July 29, 2009 at 9:49 p.m. (Suggest removal)

My gosh! As an Auburn alumnus, I have NEVER in my years of rivalry with my best, most obnoxious Alabama pals, seen such angry, childish, vicious, and repugnant comments as I have seen from this person blackwater. Good grief.

Posted by krm (anonymous) on August 1, 2009 at 4:45 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Let's hop AU has a good yr look out for 97 DT local boy ready to go by the way Roll Tide

Posted by nessa6313 (anonymous) on August 4, 2009 at 1:35 p.m. (Suggest removal)

To heck with both of em' GO VOLS!

Posted by VHS_Will_Rise_Again (anonymous) on December 1, 2009 at 6:10 p.m. (Suggest removal)

haha!!.....look at auburn now...!!