Posted by kittycreek (anonymous) on July 13, 2009 at 2:48 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Seems like kind of a waste to use so much money, manpower, and other resources just to catch folks with a few plants - while so many far worse crimes continue on.

(I'll be y'all are gonna beat me up over this one!)☺

Posted by REK1138 (anonymous) on July 13, 2009 at 3:05 p.m. (Suggest removal)

You call 1200 a "few" plants. Clearly this is not some aged hippy growing weed in his organic vegetable garden.

Posted by Littlelady8451 (anonymous) on July 13, 2009 at 3:26 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Thier is alot more harmful drugs out there other than pot plants.Here is alittle FYI in the bible they talk about a natural herb.What do you think it is.Now I am not saying it is a good thing to go out and buy or do drugs but you got to wonder.

Posted by REK1138 (anonymous) on July 13, 2009 at 4:04 p.m. (Suggest removal)

In the Bible they talk about a natural herb? Okay. Where to begin. First, what chapter and verse are you referencing. Second, are you concluding that this "herb" spoken of is cannabis? And, third, are you further deducing that because the Bible speaks of an "herb" and this "herb" is cannabis that the Bible says it's okay for you to fire up a fatty and smoke the world away?

And please, there, their, they're...if you do nothing more in life, learn the difference, learn to use them correctly.

Posted by TheDude (Michael Wells) on July 13, 2009 at 4:40 p.m. (Suggest removal)

It's a drug, it's illegal, and people lose their lives because of it. No candy-coatin' this one folks. It ain't no joke.

Posted by kittycreek (anonymous) on July 13, 2009 at 4:51 p.m. (Suggest removal)

"We found it from one end of the County to the other".

Rek,

Apparently it was several (aged or not) hippies growing weed in their vegetable gardens all across the county.

Posted by getbizi (anonymous) on July 13, 2009 at 5:32 p.m. (Suggest removal)

It's legal in Florida to ride a motorcycle without a helmet. That doesnt mean it's good judgement not to wear one! I'm not sure why some people are such staunch advocates of mind-altering drugs.

Posted by myhumbleopinion (anonymous) on July 13, 2009 at 5:34 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Yeeeaaaa, ok...... the herb(s) mentioned in the Bible are for eating and flavoring food. There is not one reference that I can find where God instructed people to dry it, roll it in papyrus and smoke it....

Posted by ATC1962 (anonymous) on July 13, 2009 at 7:46 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Good Job to the law enforcement agencies involved. From the looks of these plants, someone has been watering and tending to the garden. Corn Crops are looking rather withered these days.

Posted by scottdavene (anonymous) on July 13, 2009 at 8:09 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Marijuana prohibition has been a total failure and is perhaps this country's greatest mistake. Not only has it created criminals out of nearly a third of the country's populace, it costs our society billions of dollars every year, creates a strain on our prison system, and has little or no effect on marijuana use in the US. In some cases, prosecuting marijuana use has turned non-violent, middle class kids into violent and unpredictable, career criminals. Once a person has a criminal conviction on their record, they are far less likely to find a good job and become a useful member of society. Other countries with more liberal drug laws have much lower rates of drug addiction among their people. I invite you to my web-page devoted to raising awareness on the assault on our civil liberties: http://freethegods.blogspot.com/

Posted by steve42 (anonymous) on July 13, 2009 at 8:27 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Look out, here comes the Google Alerts crowd again.

Now we get to hear how Maryjane isn't proven to be a gateway drug, how the war on drugs is costing the government billions of dollars, and how the growth and use of it is a victimless crime.

Goody, goody, where's my popcorn?

Posted by myhumbleopinion (anonymous) on July 13, 2009 at 8:50 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Right....THAT is the country's greatest mistake.......

Not: taking God out of schools (and basically everywhere else).
Not: killing unborn babies.
Not: allowing our government to be of the goverment for the government and by the goverment instead of of the people, by the people and for the people.
Not: teaching children that everybody owes them something and that they don't need to get off their lazy butts and GET A JOB AND BE PRODUCTIVE CITIZENS.

Yeah, our lack of another way to escape REAL LIFE is our problem.

Posted by Littlelady8451 (anonymous) on July 13, 2009 at 8:51 p.m. (Suggest removal)

WOW SEEMS LIKE SOME PEOPLE HAVE ( THAIR) FEATHERS IS A RUFFLE IS THAT BETTER SPELLING FOR YA REK1138!!!!!!!! LETS WORRY ABOUT BIG BETTER THINGS OTHER THAN POT PLANTS.I WANT TO KNOW HOW THEY BURNED ALL THAT AND DID NOT GET A BUZZ LOL LOL!!!!!

Posted by TheDude (Michael Wells) on July 13, 2009 at 9:26 p.m. (Suggest removal)

kw, I'm not concerned about 22 other states, only the one where these raids occurred. Guess I will just have to start spellin' things out for you. OH ... you got out of line again and kw wholloped you with the turbo sidewinder swatter, dint she? That's why yer tryin' to take it out on me. I get it. They hold water and smoke, by the way. Sure you know that.

Posted by mack13 (anonymous) on July 13, 2009 at 11:11 p.m. (Suggest removal)

OK... great job and kudos the CC Sheriff's Office for doing what
they can to keep drugs out of the hands of users, abusers, and
young people.

The fact that mary jane is legal in other states has nothing to do
with Alabama. If folks want to legalize and tax it, then they need
to contact their government representatives and let them know.

Right now, marijuana is not legal in Alabama, so, either move to
another state or live without it. Isn't having tobacco and alcohol
enough?

just my .02

mack

Posted by TheDude (Michael Wells) on July 14, 2009 at 7:17 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Yeah, and yer stories about ridin' along side the free range horses on yer trusty 4 wheeler in the badlands of California, with the wind at yer back and a bong hangin' out yer backpak, singin', "I'll Never Smoke Marijuana With Willie Nelson Again".

Posted by REK1138 (anonymous) on July 14, 2009 at 7:33 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Actually, marijuana is illegal in all 50 states with the exception of so-called medical usage in, I think , 10 or 12 states. Possession under certain amounts is a misdemeanor in most states, punishable by fines and the fact is most law enforcement agencies overlook or ignore aged hippies who grow and smoke their own dope on their own property so long as they don't drive under the influence, sell, or distribute their product. So no Kitty, these were not aged hippies with a plant or two in the vegetable garden. These were large stands of cannabis plants, large enough to be spotted from the air, grown with the intention of selling and distributing. The real crime here, from a governance perspective, is that these people are growing and selling a controlled substance that is untaxed and unregulated.

Bottom line, it's illegal and the police are doing their job. You want to whine and complain about ridiculous laws, direct your complaints to where they belong, the state house and Washington, don't knock the police. If you're all for legalizing pot, I'd say you've easily got the most pot-friendly administration we've ever had in office right now but you better act quick - at the rate they're running our economy into the ground, marching us toward socialized medicine and environmental fascism, and emboldening our enemies, they won't be around for long.

Posted by juswannabeheard (anonymous) on July 14, 2009 at 8:02 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I just want the date, time, and location of the next pot "burning" I would like to offer my assistance.

Posted by mapmom (anonymous) on July 14, 2009 at 8:17 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Great job...you know it is still illegal and it is a crime so lets give the Sheriff's Department the credit they deserve....they were running off of the citizens tips so that means they were listening to the public's concerns..believe me I know there are bigger problems but this is a heck of a start b/c most of the people who use these drugs cause a lot of the problems with the crime.

Posted by REK1138 (anonymous) on July 14, 2009 at 9 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Headline: SHERIFF DEPUTIES BURN 2000 CONFISCATED MARIJUANA PLANTS SOUTH OF CLANTON

Next story: SEVERAL CLANTON CONVENIENCE AND GROCERY STORES SELL OUT OF POTATO CHIPS AND LITTLE DEBBIE CAKES IN UNEXPLAINED RUSH FOR SNACKS

Posted by jasonduskin (anonymous) on July 14, 2009 at 9:32 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I would like to go back to the reference that Scripture makes a reference to a "natural herb". I would like to know where that reference is located and the context in which that "natural herb" is being addressed. I would also like to remind the world that the Bible gives clear instruction in Romans 13:1-5 that we are to submit to governing authorities. Translation to those who might be to high to understand, if it's if against the law here, then it is also Biblically wrong. The only time that the government has no right to govern you is in the area of your faith. I'm pretty sure "pot" has nothing to do with your faith.

Posted by dottie2008 (anonymous) on July 14, 2009 at 9:40 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I am glad to see that they did get it off the streets, that's a good thing.
But what most people don't realize is that today's drug of choice among teens isn't pot, it is pills.
Seen a special the other night on tv, the growing numbers of overdoses with teens isn't from doing coke, crystal meth, herion or pot it's from taking lortabs, valium, xanax and all the other pills that is in alot of parnets homes.
And it is easier for people to get.
In Ky last year alone they had over 480 overdoses from teens and other people taking pills.
Fla is known for the state where you can go to the doctor tell them you hurt and you walk out that day with all you want, then people bring it back here and sell it to our kids.
Today's problem isn't with pot, it's with pills and number one on the list is meth.
I would rather know that a teen or anyone else was smoking pot instead of taking pills or doing meth.
Those 2 along tear many lives apart and always ends up with the person that does it with losing everything they have or far worst they end up dead leaving the family behind to pick up the pieces.
KW I hate that your ex- wife done what she done when the kids was young causing them to become pill heads.
They said once someone is addicted to pills it is very hard to get them off of them.
Drugs of choice when I was growing up was pot and alcohol.
Today it's far more worse than anyone can think about.
Hopefully the drug task force can find all the people that is selling the meth and the pills and take them off the street.

Posted by mapmom (anonymous) on July 14, 2009 at 12:01 p.m. (Suggest removal)

dottie2008....I understand your concern but the pills you mention are very legal. But, if you are caught with a bottle & cannot prove you have a prescription or you have someone elses prescription then they bust you and it is a serious offense but you cannot just go out searching for a legal drug in illegal hands unfortuantly it has to be from a search if you are under suspicion for something illegal. I think this needs to go back to the doctors & it should be a very lengthy process for these pills to be prescribed. I think when you have a need for the pills after surgery or something that there are way too many of the pills given..I have a couple of bottles of pain pills now that were just too much don't really know why I was given so many for just having 2 wisdom teeth taken out it is a little rediculus on the amount that are handed out.

Posted by dottie2008 (anonymous) on July 14, 2009 at 12:49 p.m. (Suggest removal)

What most people don't think about is this, doctors are legal drug dealers. They hand out pain pills and nerve pills like it is candy, instead of getting to the root of what may be causing the pain.
They spend less time getting to know the person and more time making money, the more patients they see the more money they make.
It should be to where if someone is in pain that they need to do all kinds of test to find out what is causing it.
The " legal drug use " is spreading like wild fires today and it looks as if there is no way to stop it.
Look at all the people that have died of drug overdoses from a friend,family member or the people from hollywood and in the music buiness.
Just as Aids kills regardless of color, background, status or whatever it don't care, everyone is affected.
We need stricter laws when it comes to prescription drugs.
They have it to where doctors can go on-line to check out people but makes you wonder how many actually do that and as well people can just give any name that they want to when they go to what is called Doctor shopping.
Sad part is we can't be with our kids or family members 24 hours a day 7 days a week.
So we have to hope that we can trust all they are doing and what they say they are doing.
Studies show that jr high and high school students take or have taken pain pills and it's over 50% of these kids that are trying it.
That is real scary.
I had knee sugery a few years ago and the doctor give me 60 lortabs to take.
At each check up and going through PT, he would give me another script.
Not saying that I took all of them because I didn't.
Think I took them the first week and that was it.
Advil will do wonders if people don't abuse the medication.
If someone abuses medication then No advil don't work and neither will prescription medication.
The amune system gets amune to it and it takes more and more, that's why so many overdose on all the stuff.

Posted by TheDude (Michael Wells) on July 14, 2009 at 1:08 p.m. (Suggest removal)

SNORE ...

Posted by mrjones0913 (anonymous) on July 14, 2009 at 2:06 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Wow this is a heated discussion. So here is my humble opinion. Pot is illegal in Alabama and I have a wonderful God to thank for that. Pot and other drugs are corrupting our world every day. I have 6 children all very young and I do not want them to get caught up with that mess. I believe that Chilton County did a GREAT job with this case and I wish they would continue to get the criminals that are messing up Peach country.

This is not the governments biggest mistake.

BIGGER mistakes are
1. Not locking up childd abusers for life
2. Not locking up Molesters for life
3. Not hearing every case fairly
4. The good ole boy network
5. Abortion
6. Taking religion out of schools

Now for all the pot heads whom defend it, I am sorry that your parents did not teach you better. My mother told me three things in life (right or not) don't smoke, no tatoos, and no drugs. TO THIS DAY I have obeyed my mother. Thank God for caring parents and thank God for good decisions.

Not to say I was not peer pressured in my life, but I was a big enough woman to say NO. What in the he** has gone wrong with us. The end will come and how will you stand before your God? Will you offer him a joint?

God Bless!!!!

Posted by JanineS22 (Jan Smith) on July 14, 2009 at 2:15 p.m. (Suggest removal)

There will come a time when they're going to need something to feed their drug habit. There you go REK...some here know their basic grammar skills.

I'll be waiting for an at-a-boy!

Posted by mrjones0913 (anonymous) on July 14, 2009 at 2:53 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Oh I completely understand. No not everbody is the same religion. But for those who are not of christianity or whatever a different God, they do not have to bow their heads to pray. Our country is made of freedom, or at least it was.

Posted by gonefishen (anonymous) on July 14, 2009 at 3:13 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Just some fuel for the fire. LO

www.equalrights4all.org/religious/bible....

Posted by TheDude (Michael Wells) on July 14, 2009 at 9:17 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I think Clanton needs a bowling alley ...

Posted by Littlelady8451 (anonymous) on July 14, 2009 at 9:33 p.m.

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Posted by Dave35045 (anonymous) on July 14, 2009 at 10:30 p.m. (Suggest removal)

First of all - Let me say that our sheriff is top-notched. I have the up most respect for him and the deputies that he oversees. BUT --- the money spent on a 3 day sting to bust pot growers is a bit stupid. Not only did our sheriff's dept spend time on this, but the ABI, Forestry, DEA, DPS and Alabama National Guard. That's a bit extreme. You could have put this effort into locating and stopping drugs from coming into the county or better yet - get our meth problem under control. Having this many agencies involved to bust some pot growers is stupid. Before everyone breaks their arms patting the sheriff's department on the back - GET THE METH PROBLEM UNDER CONTROL!!!!!!!!

Posted by angieid (anonymous) on July 14, 2009 at 10:36 p.m. (Suggest removal)

dottie.... what about those who actually need the amt of meds they are prescribed and are taking them correctly with proper supervision? do you not realize that the problem doesnt lie with the doctor.. it lies with the person who chooses to abuse it....thats whos fault it is.. not the docs or the legit patients who do jump thru every single hoop they are asked to while feeling that everyone and their brother are judging them to be an addict? if your reasoning is true then i guess that god must be a dope dealer too since god makes pot opium coca leaves available .. he provides the sunshine and the rain and the seeds and the delivery method to distribute the seeds via bird excrement.... hmmmm i wonder who would be the first to condemn him.....

Posted by REK1138 (anonymous) on July 15, 2009 at 7:36 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I think Chilton County needs a pot Czar. And a bowling alley too.

Posted by juswannabeheard (anonymous) on July 15, 2009 at 7:48 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I'm glad they got this stuff off the street. It sends a message to the public at large. No matter how major or minor your offense we won't tolerate drugs. From the heavy drugs to pot. Sometimes you have to start off small and move up.

The fact that there were 12,607 full grown marijuana plants in the county makes me wonder what the Task Force is doing with thier time.

Posted by PhilBurnette (anonymous) on July 15, 2009 at 8 a.m. (Suggest removal)

It appears a lot of misguided or uneducated people are posting here. The bottom line is many things are illegal. That includes marijuana, meth and many other drugs. In the various articles that have been printed it seems Sheriff Davis and others are going after ALL illegal drugs. I highly commend them for that and pray for their safety as they go about the business of protecting us and cleaning up our county.

Sheriff Davis is doing the job I voted for him to do. If he decides to run again he can count on my support. Keep up the good work Kevin, and ignore those who do not know of what they speak.

Posted by myhumbleopinion (anonymous) on July 15, 2009 at 8:41 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Utmost, Dave35045, UTmost.......

What drug do you think the meth addicts, coke addicts, etc.... start with? Ding, ding, ding......the final answer? POT.

In the immortal words of Barney Fife....the Sheriff's department is "Nipping it in the bud" (pun absolutely intended)

Posted by REK1138 (anonymous) on July 15, 2009 at 9:44 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Didn't Obammer promise us some stimlus money for a new bowling alley?

Posted by TheDude (Michael Wells) on July 15, 2009 at 9:57 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I think he did REK, but it's been appropriated elsewhere.

Posted by alwaysright (anonymous) on July 15, 2009 at 11:04 a.m. (Suggest removal)

No one has spoken about all the little kids in bible school that were affected downwind by the smoke from that HOGLEG, I mean pot burn.

Posted by dottie2008 (anonymous) on July 15, 2009 at 12:12 p.m. (Suggest removal)

angieid all of the drugs that you mentioned are illegal drugs. regardless of what you say doctors are the legal drug dealers.
What I was saying they should do MORE to check out all the people that they are giving all these prescriptions to.
I work with people that are addicted to these drugs.
What you may not understand is that alot of these people started out taking them for all the right reasons, with any medications after awhile your body builds a amuneity to it and it takes more to control the pain.
Your right alot of it lies with the person that takes the drugs.
But if you have been on these medications for months or even years you can't just stop taking them because your body is addicted to them.
The prescription drug use in this country today is higher than the use of all illegal drugs and kills more than cocaine, herion, even meth today because it's so easy to get.

Posted by Littlelady8451 (anonymous) on July 15, 2009 at 2:29 p.m.

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Posted by TheDude (Michael Wells) on July 15, 2009 at 4:27 p.m. (Suggest removal)

YOU DINT ... YOU DINT SAY THAT ON HEA!! ADVERTISER POLICE! GOTTA 911 ON HEA! LITTLE(LADY?) DONE BROKE THE RULES!

Posted by DrFeelgood (anonymous) on July 16, 2009 at 1:35 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Sorry, myhumbleopinion, and others, but you are completely wrong, even though I wouldn't expect you to be up on current medical studies (done in the last five years, or so).

First off...since marijuana is by far the most prevalent illegal drug, it is obvious that at some point, it is going to be used by eventual harcore drug abusers...but -
the fact is, hard drug abusers are often substantially different from the norm, in their progression of drug use.

The serious drug addict is far less likely to follow the typical sequence of alcohol, then marijuana, followed by other drugs. They are more likely to have used marijuana *before* using alcohol, and more likely to have used other drugs *before* using marijuana - the most common being opiate-based perscription narcotics, like hydrocodone (OxyContin, Vicodin, etc), usually obtained from the household medicine cabinet.

That non-typical sequence is highly linked with earlier use of illicit drugs *other than marijuana* and deeper lifetime drug involvement.

Pretty much 100% of these kinds of studies show that for a large number of serious drug users, marijuana does not play the role of a gateway drug, mainly because marijuana does not give the desired "high" that hardcore drug abusers seek.

I don't mean to sound like a dry medical journal article, but I've done a lot of research, in this field.
Take it for what it's worth.

Posted by myhumbleopinion (anonymous) on July 16, 2009 at 11:43 a.m. (Suggest removal)

DrFeelgood, were you trying to make a point (other than that you feel superior to the rest of us)?

Posted by DrFeelgood (anonymous) on July 16, 2009 at 5:16 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Well, yeah, actually, myhumbleopinion - I thought the point of my post was obvious.
If you feel that I was trying to act like I am superior to you, that was not my intention, at all, and I'm not really sure what I typed that made you think that.
I was just sharing info.
I even put a caveat at the very end of my post, yet you believe I was doing some sort of "superior dance"?
I don't get it. :::shrugs shoulders:::

Posted by angieid (anonymous) on July 16, 2009 at 9:15 p.m. (Suggest removal)

dr feelgood
i agree... and if i remember correctly you are in the profession of medicine so therefore you are privileged to some information that others arent. some of the people need to do research before spouting off about the evils of pills. yes there are those who abuse them.. but there is a distinct difference in those who abuse.. and those who need them. those who need them do not get high off of the meds... the meds merely make them able to function normally in daily life... the ones who abuse.. get high... and are constantly looking for ways to get more.. or a better high. Abusers go to many different doctors,use fake names, use emergency rooms in many different citys, buy the pills on the streets, steal and commit crimes to enable them to get access to the meds.. forge prescriptions steal legitimate patients meds ect... thats how an addict acts. people who are legitimate patients who need them usally are giving them from a doctor who specialized in pain management... have random pill counts at any time.. drug test for presence and level of meds in their system at any docs appointment not just pain management ones ... have their prescription records checked by not only their doctors..but also by drug enforcement officers. the pain management doctors also have current photos of their patients as well as their drivers liscense and social security. they also must tell their docs of every single medication they are prescribed and failure to do so in a timely manner or breaking any of the above rules or non compliance with any request the pain management asks guarantees that they will be dropped from the pain managments practice and would have a very very very hard time ever getting any doctor to treat them for their pain problem again. its wrong to lump everyone in who takes meds in one group simply because of fear and ignorance just as its unfair to judge every long haired person as a bum or undesirable element of society or because of their gender ,race, sexual orientation,or religious beliefs. It saddens me to see how many people are treated with disrespect simply because they have medical issues that others do not understand.. whether it be mental issues, pain issues, epilepsy, diabetes or other medical problems. Please before judging someone.. ask yourself how you would want to be treated... if you were the one in their shoes and let that guide how you react.

Posted by dottie2008 (anonymous) on July 16, 2009 at 11:10 p.m. (Suggest removal)

angieid, for your imformation I deal with pain every single waking moment of my life.
I have RA and as well 3 very bad disks in my back, so I know pain.
I also work in drug and alcohol abuse clinic for teens and work in a halfway house for women that has just come out of drug treatment.
I know what it is like for doctors as well as others to look at you different, but at the same time I know where they are coming from.
Prescription Pain Meds is a very big problem today,and it starts with common people just like you and I.
And now it's something that teens have gotten into cause it's cheap and easy to get.
Do you really think every single person is honest with their doctor? If you do then you are badly mistaken.
I know someone that gets 120 Lortabs per month, they keep just enough to take so when they go back to the doctor and blood work is done that is shows up in their blood stream.
They sell the other 80 to 100.
Their are doctor's out there that just write scripts as if it is candy they are giving away.
Here where I live a doctor was just busted for doing just that, also come to find out he was hook on some very serious pain medications.
I deal every single day with people hook on all of this and I have lost some kids that died way too early because they took an overdose, not on purpose but by mistake not realizing what was going to happen.
I have treated teens that the parnets never knew what was going on until the child came into the ER.
Here is another kicker Do you know how many people are arrested every day for DUI, you don't have to be drinking to go to jail for this, you can be under the influence of a controlled substance, which we see alot of people that are driving while taking lortabs, valium, xanax, whatever it may be that effects your driving.
Kwsrgraves should know all about this being that he was at one time a police officer.
Today though instead of just putting everyone in jail they have what is called drug court, they have to go to classes, see a CRO do a drug test and sometimes have to come see me then for the most part it doesn't go against their record.
Even you could get arrested if you drive and happen to be in a wreck or get pulled over and the officer thinks that you are under the influence of something.
I am not judging anyone,all I am doing is stating a cold hard fact that people in this world don't want to face and that is there is a serious issue with perscription pain medications.
Personally I don't care if you like what I say or not,
for you to get your underwear in the crack I must have hit a nerve.

Posted by Littlelady8451 (anonymous) on July 17, 2009 at 12:39 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I can't help myself--- So dottie2008 you say you have all this pain what do you take for your pain?And as far as the teens on drugs and pills they should have enough sense to say no.As as far as I see it yes people need meds. to make it through the day my husband is hurt bad and can not walk most of the time I have to dress him put his socks and shoes on-- and you are going to sit there and say he should not be on meds?If you have all this (pain) Whatever**** maybe you need to be on meds too.Oh wait you can walk.And drees yourself,But your shoes on.Don't make comments about what one has to take in a day to make it through.Because you don't know real pain!!!

Posted by angieid (anonymous) on July 17, 2009 at 6:47 a.m. (Suggest removal)

ummm dottie my underwear isnt in my crack.. but like little ladys husband i have a lot of days where i cant walk and am resigned to using the stupid wheelchair... every single day i wear shoes i have to have someone help me get them on. i live in constant pain... but i am a responsible intelligent human being who does what im supposed to do with all my meds and they are kept securely in safe to prevent anyone from tampering with or stealing the them. My deceased father was a jefferson county deputy who worked UNDO (undercover narcotic division was called that back in the day) What made him go into law enforcement and narcotics was the fact that his sisters husband shot her up with a lethal dose of herion in the 70's because he didnt want to be a father and she refused to have a back alley abortion. My father fought hard to keep the drugs off the streets and out of the hands of the abusers while i laid at home in my bed awake and listening for the sound of his car in the drive wondering if my daddy would be home safe and sound every nite. I know the heartaches that drug abuse causes first hand...both from the death of my aunt and my unborn cousin... and watching the things my father went thru to help prevent it.

BTW who ever it is that you know that holds on to only a few of their pain meds and sells the rest... TURN THEM IN FOR GODS SAKE! Dont enable them to help feed the very disease that we all want to see come to a end before anymore lives are lost or destroyed.

Posted by dottie2008 (anonymous) on July 17, 2009 at 7:07 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I take pain medication, does it help, NO it doesn't.
I have not said that people who need it should not take it.
They should.
Yes teens should say NO, but MANY DON'T.....
HERE IS A QUESTION FOR YOU AND lITTLELADY,
WHAT IF IT WAS YOUR KIDS?
GUESS YOU ARE SAYING THAT I SHOULD NOT HELP KIDS OR ANYONE ELSE.
I HOPE AND PRAY THAT NOTHING LIKE THIS HAPPENS TO YOUR KIDS IF YOU HAVE ANY, GRANDKIDS OR ANYONE ELSE IN YOUR FAMILY.
BUT MAYBE IT NEEDS TO SO IT WILL OPEN YOUR EYES TO JUST HOW BAD THE PROBLEM IS.
MAYBE THEY WILL END UP IN THE ER ONE NIGHT FROM AN OVERDOSE AND THEN YOU WILL SEE IT'S NOT SOMETHING YOU CAN JUST TURN AND LOOK THE OTHER WAY ON.
AS FAR AS THE PERSON I KNOW THAT SELLS, I HAVE TURNED THAT PERSON IN THE POLICE KNOW AND THEY ARE TRYING TO CATCH HIM SELLING THEM.
KNOWING AND CATCHING SOMEONE IS TWO DIFFERENT THINGS.

Posted by myhumbleopinion (anonymous) on July 17, 2009 at 7:16 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Well, Dr, you said that I was wrong about drug addicts starting out with pot. But then your statements were scattered and did not show where I was wrong....
Your statement spoke of marijuana being "by far the most prevalent illegal drug". You spoke of "serious" drug users, "non-typical" serious drug users.....and all these studies. Instead of looking at some study done God-knows where (and by God-knows who)....look locally....
The one statement that you made that made sense to me was not even a statement; it was part of one....."the typical sequence of alcohol, then marijuana, followed by other drugs" key-word...typical.....the typical meth user started out with pot....the typical coke user started off with pot.....They start with pot and, when it doesn’t kill them…they feel comfortable moving up to harder stuff. The drug companies and the liberals can try to debunk the gateway theory in order to further their agendas, but the fact remains that pot is the first drug that most people experiment with. Sadly, most people don’t consider alcohol a drug.
And the thing that you typed that made you sound like you think you are superior? Well, you said everyone was wrong and then spouted: "even though I wouldn't expect you to be up on current medical studies (done in the last five years, or so)." Why wouldn’t you expect us to be up on studies? We obviously read (and more than the funny papers). We obviously possess computers with internet access. Most of us probably have television. We may live in a small, rural town but that doesn't mean we aren't capable of keeping up.... (those of us with kids had better keep up)
.....maybe you didn't mean it as such but that is how it sounded to me...I could be taking it wrong......I've been wrong (and/or a little over-sensitive) before...or so I've been told.....

Posted by angieid (anonymous) on July 17, 2009 at 8:21 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Dottie i am against any kinds of illegal drug use whether it be pot or prescription drugs or cocaine methamphetamine or any of the others...It tears my heart out to see the destruction of lives familys and communities that illegal drug use causes... and about knowing and catching being two entirely different things.. yep your right on about that one. i truely wish that we could catch all the abusers of drugs and get it off the streets.

Posted by DrFeelgood (anonymous) on July 17, 2009 at 1:28 p.m. (Suggest removal)

myhumbleopinion...
...where you saw "the typical sequence" sentence, you apparently missed the words that came before it: "**The serious drug addict is far less likely to follow*** the typical sequence of alcohol, then marijuana, followed by other drugs."

Meaning that people who "graduate" to hardcore drugs, like meth and coke are more likely to have started with something *other* than pot and alcohol...usually pills from their parent's medicine cabinet. These people have actually had minimal marijuana use, because a marijuana high literally does nothing for them.

And this wasn't some "god-knows-where" study. It was the accumulation of several long-term studies done at places like Johns Hopkins, and the University of Chicago...and without any government or pharmeceutical company involvement or bias.
But the main thing I want you to understand is that I was not trying to make you feel like I was trying to imply that you aren't intelligent, or net-savvy. I am a health-care professional, so - as angieid pointed out, I have access to publications that the general public does not.
I am sorry that you took my post the wrong way.

Posted by angieid (anonymous) on July 29, 2009 at 8:36 p.m. (Suggest removal)

richard .. they cant do that because on april 13th when they posted arrests and charges of people who had been caught on drug charges in the preceding 2 months someone asked why not wait till they are convicted because an arrest and a charge of doesnt necessarily mean someone is guilty..... so i assume thats why they didnt tell us who they were... however it would be interesting to know... i wish this county had a sherrif office web page like shelby county does... you can find out if there are warrents on someone.... also find out they are in jail what they are charged with and what their bonds are... and if they have beeen released from jail in the past thirty days with all the same info as if they were in jail... the website also has a dispatch log where you can see what kind of call it was and the general location like hwy 31 and county rd 22 burglary and the time the call came in... i really wish chilton county would do something like this to keep our citzens informed...maybe someday