Posted by KatherineReece (anonymous) on January 5, 2009 at 11:23 p.m. (Suggest removal)

There was no Atlantis, Plato wrote a political morality story using a fictitious city name. There have been tests done on the ground beneath the Sphinx and there's no secret library there. Further, there is no mention in Egypt about Atlantis.

I'm sorry to hear they put this mess on the history channel, but then I've seen lots of bad information on the history channel in the last year or so.

"Garbage history" is somewhat of a specialty of mine
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Posted by TheDude (Michael Wells) on January 6, 2009 at 7:58 a.m. (Suggest removal)

He's pretending, Katherine. Let him be ...

Posted by REK1138 (anonymous) on January 6, 2009 at 2:59 p.m. (Suggest removal)

The secret to being psychic is you either have to make your predictions so vague and cryptic that you can make pretty much any random event to apply to your prediction (like Nostradomus or Dionne Warwick) or you make so many predictions that statistically you've got to get a few right or close - Cayce was said to have given somewhere in the neighborhood of 20,000 predictions in his life.

Posted by G_F_Bass (anonymous) on January 27, 2009 at 12:56 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Last the sismological studies made in the last 20 Spanish, Portuguese, North American years by specialists, and French in the area of the Gulf of Cadiz, and Straits of Gibraltar, demonstrate that between the 10.245 BC, until year 1577 (tsunami of Lisbon), they have been taken place tsunamis, associated to earthquakes of great intensity, at the rate of one every 1500 years (maximum every 2000). The calculations have done it geologists thanks to the finding of typical geologic deposits of the registry of tsunamis. Once again we are not before a mere invention or speculation born of my mind, but before results of very serious and rigorous scientific studies made by scientists of many Universities. The table of the possible registries of tsunamis that you can see in the following Link (in Spanish, and English) demonstrates that great probabilities that exist they have happened at least two great catastrophes sismic-tsunamical in same time to which Plato fixes the date of the war between Atlanteans and Athenians. As you can see the table, geologists S.M. Lebreiro, I.N. Mc Cave, and P. Weaver (1997), the Straits of Gibraltar area of and Gulf of Cadiz think that in approximately in the 1245 BC, one of these great tsunamis could happen, in. I believe thatcould be around the 1330 BC. As it wants that it is, according to same calculation of geologists, could happen another one between the 1500 BC and the 1300 BC. If it is certain that still scientists make lack more proofs, before a enough probability scientific we are elevated at least, because these calculations are sustained in the fossil registry of tsunamis in that area. They are not mere speculations without scientific fundament, all the opposite, have much scientific fundament.

We all know the list of obligatory points that the Conference of Milos the 2005 dictated for majority that should gather any hypothesis on Atlantis that seeks to be considered as a serious intent, worthy of scientific discussion. This original list of 24 points has been revised and corrected by Georgeos Díaz-Montexano in the following way:

1. The Acropolis of Atlantis should have been located where an Insular-Land used to be and where parts of it may still exist.
2. The Acropolis of Atlantis should have had a most distinct geomorphology composed of alternating concentric rings of land and water.
3. The Insular-Land Atlantis should have been located before (in front) the Pillars of Hercules, in the Pelagus Atlantic.
4. The Insular-Land denominated like Atlantis were divided by Poseidôn in ten parts or districts, and one of those ten parts was an extremity that arrived until the part of the Pillars of Hercules, and its denomination was Gadeira.
5. The Insular-Land Atlantis was (in part) from Libya, and (meizôn) so greater (or as powerfull) as Asia (Anatolia and Middle East?).
6. Atlantis must have sheltered a literate

Posted by G_F_Bass (anonymous) on January 27, 2009 at 12:57 a.m. (Suggest removal)

7. The Acropolis of Atlantis should have been routinely reachable from Athens by sea; and at some time it must have contacts with the Greeks.
8. At the time, the Atlanteans should have been at war with Athenians (Poseidôn against Athena).
9. The Acropolis of Atlantis should have sunk entirely or partly below the water.
10. The Acropolis of Atlantis was destroyed in Cecrops, Erechtheus, Erichthonius and Erysichthon times, before Theseus’s times.
11. The Acropolis of Atlantis was 50 stadia from the sea.
12. Atlantis had a high population density, enough to support a large army (10,000 chariots, 1,200 ships, 1,200,000 hoplites)
13. The region of Atlantis involved the sacrifice of bulls.
14. The destruction of Atlantis was accompanied by an great earthquake (seismôn) and a Kataklüsmos: “cleaning by liquid or waters” (tsunami?).
15. After the destruction of Atlantis, the passage of ships was difficult.
16. Elephants were present at least in a part of Atlantis, and ivory was used.
17. Hot and cold springs were present in Atlantis.
18. Atlantis lay on a coastal plain of 3000 stadion of Maxima length, and 2000 stadion from the sea until approximately in the middle of the plain; surrounded by mountains falling into the sea.
19. Atlantis controlled other colonies or states of the period.
20. Some Winds in Atlantis came from the north.
21. The Atlanteans constructed canals in the plain where was the Acropolis.
22. In Atlantis they were constructed “aqueducts over the bridges”.
23. Atlantis were “beneath the sun” (huph’ hêliôi), expression that it indicates was - most of the year - in a sunny place.
24. Every 5th and 6th year, they sacrificed bulls.

“Milos Conference Match”, reviewed and corrected by Georgeos Díaz-Montexano (2005-2007).However there are only some few points that are obligatory, the other ones they could be left as secondary. I have been able to reduce to only 10 indispensable or obligatory points. These points are the most exclusive or characteristic in Atlantis, that is to say, those points that cannot be ignored, and that they are not common to all the civilizations, that is to say that cannot be with easiness in any place of the world. In this reduction of points I have omitted the figures and measures, because the studies of the diverse codexes and MS demonstrate that big contradictions exist. Consequently, the figures of the measures and distances neither the figures of the dates can be considered as sure elements in the scientific discussion.These are that is to say the 10 key points that are obligatory, that it should complete any theory on Plato’s Atlantis, so that it can be considered as a serious and rigorous intent of approach to the enigma of Atlantis...

Posted by G_F_Bass (anonymous) on January 27, 2009 at 12:57 a.m. (Suggest removal)

1. The Atlantis should have been located where an Insular-Land used to be and where parts of it may still exist.
2. The Insular-Land Atlantis should have been located “before the mouth” of the Pillars of Hercules, but in the Pelagus Atlantic, not in the Mediterranean neither in another sea or the ocean.
3. The Insular-Land denominated like Atlantis were divided by Poseidôn in ten parts or districts, and one of those ten parts was an extremity that arrived until one part of the Pillars of Hercules, and its denomination was Gadeira.
4. In Atlantis, in its ground, a native human species arose, that is, indigenous a human species or endemic, that is to say, that the first human beings of Atlantis did not come from any other part of the world but that were born in he himself ground of Atlantis.
5. Atlantis must have sheltered a literate population with writing system, and endemic or indigenous language, with metallurgical and navigational skills, and use of chariot-horses.
6. Elephants were present at least in a part of Atlantis, and ivory was used.
7. The Atlantis Acropolis lay on a rectangular coastal plain, surrounded by mountains falling into the sea.
8. Atlantis were “beneath the sun” (huph’ hêliôi), expression that it indicates was - most of the year - in a sunny place.
9. The war between the Atlanteans and Athenians occurred in Cecrops, Erechtheus, Erichthonius and Erysichthon times, before Theseus’s epoch, that is, in the times of Mycenaean Greece.
10. The Acropolis of Atlantis should have been reachable from Athens by sea; and at some time it must have contacts with the Greeks.
Any hypothesis or theory that it doesn’t respect these obligatory points, simply not even are not entitled to be considered as a serious or scientific hypothesis. Some considerations on the points 4 and 5.The study of the languages of old Iberia Nêsos that had writing, as Tartessians, Turdetanians, Iberians, etc., it demonstrates that the old residents from Iberia, before the arrival of the phoenicians, Greek and Roman, they spoke some languages that don’t belong, that is to say that are not kindred, of none of the linguistic well-known families; consequently, it is impossible to sustain any hypothesis on the origin of the old residents from Iberia, without before to demonstrate that the civilizations proposed as cradle of Iberia, have the same languages. Conclusion. The proof demonstrates - until the moment - that the old civilizations of Iberia like Tartessians and Iberians are absolutely original, autochthonous, indigenous, endemic, that is to say that they had their origin in the same Iberia Nêsos, from the most remote antiquity, that is to say, from before the human being that lived in Iberia learned how to speak...

Posted by G_F_Bass (anonymous) on January 27, 2009 at 12:58 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Conclusion: Plato’s descriptions point to Iberia, at least like a part, or very important extension of old Atlantis Nêsos, and the autochthonous, native, or endemic character of Atlanteans, it is also confirmed by the evidences scientific pickups in Iberia. Not it exists in any other place of the planet, another Nêsos (island / peninsula) that has been next to Hercules’ Pillars, next to a region of Gadeira, and next to a sea Atlantic, and that has also had a human autochthonous, indigenous, or endemic species, that is to say that has not come of another place, and that has also had an autochthonous, indigenous, or endemic language, that is to say, a language that has arisen in same Nêsos, that is to say that has not derived of other languages. Only Iberia Nêsos gathers all these requirements that are obligatory, because, simply, all these key points or indispensable requirements are all data that are written in Timaeus and in Plato’s Critias.

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