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Board decides against uniforms in close vote

Published 8:39pm Tuesday, April 19, 2011

A proposed school uniform policy will not be implemented countywide, as voted on at the Chilton County Board of Education meeting held Tuesday.

The vote was 3 to 4, with President Joe Mims, Ann Glasscock and Ann Thomas voting in favor of the policy; and Chris Davis, Howard Daughtery, Curtis Smith and George Walker voting in opposition.

Eight Chilton County residents stood before the board and presented their opinions on why they felt the countywide policy should not be implemented.

“I like the idea, but I think it is unnecessary; just enforce what we already have,” said Alicia Karschnik.

“If you can put uniforms back in, let’s put prayer back in school,” said Rachel McCord.

“This is a very big deal because this is another way that our rights can be taken away,” said Doyle Pierce.

Glasscock made the recommendation to approve the Chilton County Uniform Dress Code, and Thomas seconded it. During the discussion, board members voiced their opinions regarding the policy.

“I don’t have a problem with having a uniform policy,” said board member George Walker. “But I think we ought to keep the old policy and give the schools the opportunity to decide whether they want to have a uniform policy.”

“We gave Jemison that opportunity a year ago,” said board member Howard Daugherty.

Glasscock and Thomas said they have received several calls from people who are in favor of the policy.

Sue Gilliland, the Verbena teacher who held the open meeting regarding the policy at the Chilton County Courthouse, said she was pleased with the board’s decision.

“It’s a win-win situation and a combination of many people’s voices being heard in different places,” said Gilliland. “The board listened to the people that voted for them. I can’t do anything but respect that.”

In other business, Hayden said future items he wants to bring before the board is a dress code policy for teachers and a policy limiting cell phone use by teachers.

“If students can’t ask teachers a question because they’re texting, it’s a problem,” said Hayden.

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  • MED

    My kids go to Jemison
    I refuse to send my kids in uniforms
    my kids do not like them i agree with they my kids have
    rights also..

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  • Phil Burnette

    Uniform requirements should be policy for ALL county schools or for NO county schools. Individual principals should not be allowed to treat the school where SERVE as a fiefdom.

    The Board should immediately issue a ruling as to whether uniforms ARE or ARE NOT required at ALL Chilton County schools. Otherwise it is up to the parents to take the matter up the chain, all the way to the AEA and even the courts if necessary.

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  • 2236751

    I THINK THE BOARD MADE AN AWFUL DECISION IT WAS SUPPOSE TO BE ALL OR NONE . SO HOW CAN IT BE A COUNTY WIDE UNIFORM POLICY IF THE WHOLE COUNTY DOESN’T HAVE TO ABIDE BY IT ? THIS IS CRAZY TO LET ONE INDIVIDUAL BE THE JUDGE OF THIS LIKE THE SCHOOLS PRINCIPAL HE ISNT WHO WE VOTED TO BE A BOARD MEMBER SO HOW DOES IT GIVE HIM THE RIGHT TO MAKE THAT DECISION ? IF IT ISNT COUNTY WIDE LIKE IT WAS SUPPOSE TO BE THATN HOW CAN THIS BE BASED ON THE SAME COUNTY SCHOOLS ? IF EVERYONE WOULD BE SO INTERESTED IN THEIR KIDS INSTEAD OF A TEACHER HAVING THEIR PHONE OR BEING ON FACEBOOK THIS WOULDNT OF HAPPEN ANYWAY AS LONG AS THEY ARE DOING THEIR JOB AS A TEACHER AND HELPING YOUR CHILD THEY ARENT IN SCHOOL THEY ARE THEIR TEACHERS AND NO THEY ARENT SETTING A BAD EXAMPLE BECAUSE THEY ARENT FOLLOWING THE RULES OF THE CODEBOOK IF YOU HAVE EVER READ OR NOTICED THE RULE BOOK ISNT FOR THE TEACHERS IT SAYS CHILTON COUNTY STUDENT NOT TEACHER AND IF A PRINCIPAL IS GOING TO FORM A COMMITEE TO SEE WHAT THEY COMMITEE THINKS ABOUT UNIFORMS AT THEIR SCHOOL THEN THEIR SHOULD BE PEOPLE WHO CAN VOTE THEM ON THEY SHOULDN’T BE ABLE TO BE JUST HAND PICKED .

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    • DustinShort

      Maybe you should spend more time paying attention in school then if you’re going to wear uniforms or not. There are things called a “period”. Also, caps lock is not needed. Please post comments worth debating about, not what some little kid could write up.

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  • freedomofspeech

    I think the Board did the right thing voting down the county wide uniform policy. I just hope now, that the individual schools don’t start implementing it.

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  • kermit17

    The board did not listen to ALL the people who voted for them, because I did want the uniforms. Please don’t speak for everyone.

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  • MOMX2

    In regards to the vote on the dress code for Chilton County Schools, I disagree with the option of the individual school making the decision. As the “Board of Education”, make one dress code for the entire county with uniforms or not. It is not right to the parents or students in one school in the county to have different guidelines than another school due to the fact the principal thinks it is a good idea. Vote one policy county wide for every school and every student. Otherwise, how can a student be disciplined for incorrect dress with two different dress codes in the county handbook? My childrens school requires uniforms. However, if a student wears clothes from the other dress code and not the uniform, how can they be rightfully disciplined? The BOE is only asking for problems with this issue.

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    • jctigers

      You know this whole thing was started because the Superintendent wanted a policy that applied to the whole county. I completely agree with that. Either all or non. Well now that the board has voted we basically left it as is. Come on guys!!!!! The rules should be the same for all. You have some administrators that think they are dictators at their school. Yet these are the same administrators that can’t keep their teachers from texting during class. Lack of leadership. Again I say enforce the rules that you have. Having to get the board to pass a teacher dress code or pass a rule that teachers can’t text is CRAZY. Principals DO YOUR JOB!!! Quit passing the buck. Why do we have to keep passing rules and laws. We can’t even enforce the rules that we have. If I was one of the parents at Isabella, Jemison and Maplesville I would give the board an opportunity to correct this discrimination or I would be calling an attorney. Enough is enough!!!!!!

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  • Momof2boys

    I’m very glad that the BOE didn’t vote the uniform policy in. I would not have been able to afford to buy two sets of clothes. One for school and one for outside of school. I don’t feel that uniforms will give the school a better learning atmosphere. Children are going to do what they want to do regardless of what they are wearing. My son is currently a straight A student and he doesn’t wear uniforms. My other son isn’t old enough for school.

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  • 1oldman

    Wow, such emotion over a uniform policy. Where is the same emotion over the teachers abuse of the dress policy, and by the way, what violations were there, or does that include the use of cell phones? I find it strange that in some cases, the teacher takes up cell phones from students for their use or preceived use, and other teachers are using them in violation of policy. How is the student suppose to know what is acceptible, and where?

    Rather than emotion, logic should be used to discuss this policy. Personally, I see no problem with the policy requiring the wearing of a uniform dress, however, with the attitude that is developing over the control our Government is trying to exercise over our lives, I can see where others do. I also see, and have seen the problems caused by the way a person or persons dress, when they beyond the abilites of another to conform to their dress, it tends to cause a division in the social interaction of the class or even school, interferring with the learning atmosphere of the class, and lending the attitude of bullying with another avenue to bully and/or reason to bully as well.

    I don’t care which side you are on, you can find a multitude of reasons to support your point of view. Real or imagined they convince you of what you already believed, and little can be done to change you mind, unless you really seek the truth, and these remarks tend to make me wonder how many were really looking for the best results for the school system, and how many looking to satisfy their ego, and just may be split along party lines. I really don’t have a say any more, mine are grown, and I have great Grand Children soon to be entering the system, but I do wish that the adults would get over them selves and try to make the best decisions for our children, our schools, and our county, and leave what I want out of it.

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  • Leo5

    It is obvious that you don’t even know Mrs Gilliland. She is a good person and an asset to this community. Too bad there aren’t more citizens like her. It is really sad that you feel the need to slander her name just because she doesn’t think the way you do. I would absolutely allow any child of mine around Mrs Gilliland without thinking twice. I agree with you on one issue she can’t speak for you but the board meeting was open to ANYONE to attend so if you chose not to go have your opinion heard then you have no one to blame but yourself so spreading utter and ridiculous lies about Mrs Gilliland isn’t helping. Clanton advertiser should remove your slanderous comment completely.

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    • justmyopinion

      I am concerned about the reference by Leo5 that Sue Ellen Gilliland’s name was slandered. Was this in the “comment” section? I did not see it in print, but according to Leo5, someone had slandered her concerning the uniform issue. If this was slander and printed on the website, who allowed it? I thought the Advertiser screened the comments before they were allowed to be posted. At least, it must have been removed. If someone did slander her, the Advertiser would know who did it since one has to register to leave a comment. It sounds to me that if the slanderous remarks were as bad as Leo5 stated, then someone needs to be reprimanded and maybe legal action taken against them. As for Mrs. Gilliland, she did an outstanding job in preparing for the meeting she led. She gave pros and cons and let people on both sides speak. The meeting was very organized and conducted in a dignified manner. When I went to the meeting, I thought it would be conducted by the superintendent and the board members. I thought they would be there to listen to both sides. That was not the case. Only two board members were there, and when the vote was taken, one voted for and one voted against. The point is that they attended the meeting and they should be commended.

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  • sunny68

    Don’t put ALL teachers in the same category. When there is a problem with how a teacher is dressing, then the administrator should do their job and ADDRESS the problem. There is always a “blanket” policy created when just a few people are breaking rules. I guarantee that if a teacher showed up to school dressed inappropriately and he or she was asked by the ADMINISTRATOR to go home and change into appropriate professional clothing then the humiliation of the event should get his or her attention. As for the cell phone usage, I believe that ANY EMPLOYEE should only use a personal phone in the case of waiting for an emergency call from a family member or in the case of waiting on a doctor to call for a health issue. Otherwise cell phones should be off limits. The cell phone policy in the school system isn’t even enforced with students though! If you want proof then look at the kids posting on Facebook during class time. Or….look at the videos they are uploading during the school day on YouTube.

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  • Leo5

    It was Sue Gilliland not Sue Ellison.

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